Diablo Negligence WTF????
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Do you have kids...?.....
the last time I rode the diablo lift was with TK421
Do i have kids? Not sure what the hell does it matter but i'll play... Yes i have two kids... a girl (Katelyn) and a Boy (Tyler).....
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Just curious, but have they reached out to you at all since this thread was started?
Wow, I wish that was me I was reading about. What a life. He should be grateful.
Why not wear some body armor...?.....ruins your flow..?...you get a little sweatier...?...
Why not wear some body armor...? Because i choose not to...
.....ruins your flow..? What Flow?
you get a little sweatier...? No not at all
at least you're honest with yourself
i'm gonna sidetrack here:
i stopped wearing armor a few years back (body armor, not knee/shin) because a lot of it sucked. bulky, poor fit, shifting while riding, etc. Last year i picked up a POC VPD spine protector, and have been nothing but pleased with it. Stays in place, not bulky, conforms to movement very well. never looking back.
I got a level 3 AC join separation with full body Armour on 2 years ago... after that happened and after a couple of buddies of mine breaking collarbones, hands, arms and ankles... i came to a realization...
With or without body amour you can get hurt.... I only wear gloves and knee pads for the past 2 seasons...
With or without body amour you can get hurt.... I only wear gloves and knee pads for the past 2 seasons...
No reason to get upset at Dudes for pointing out you're not wearing armor....sounds like it might be a good idea.
dude do you hock this sh.t on the weekends or something? between this and the knee pad review, you might become the next totalheckler...at least you're honest with yourself
i'm gonna sidetrack here:
i stopped wearing armor a few years back (body armor, not knee/shin) because a lot of it sucked. bulky, poor fit, shifting while riding, etc. Last year i picked up a POC VPD spine protector, and have been nothing but pleased with it. Stays in place, not bulky, conforms to movement very well. never looking back.
i don't get upset.. i just find it annoying....
Crossing the NYC street are dangerous, EXTREMELY dangerous.... Does that mean pedestrians should wear body amour or not cross the street?
i should be a sales rep.... I just take personal safety very seriously; I have a cousin who's quadriplegic b/c of a stupid motocross accident, and know a lot of old times who are hobbling around b/c they didn't take care of themselves in their youth (ie they treated themselves like an amusement park ride)
Crossing the street in NYC is never 100% safe but you can make if safer by using crosswalks and stuff. Think of body armor as a NYC crosswalk.....
This is NYC we don't use Crosswalks....! Anyhow.. it's my decision to shred without body Armour... Plus i look sexy when i ride!
Don't you agree?
Hm ... restricted movement, malodorous, only protects in some situations ... hey, you're right!
Minus points for bad goggle strap placement.
Don't you agree?
lol... yeah my "Swag" was off on that run!
LMAO..... Hellz YEA!!!!swagger? wtf you auditioning for a old spice commercial??
WhoRyder also have a layer of naturally grown body amour 
Really..... Your reading what I have been saying as "scope out every landing every run......
Didnt I type straight up that you should take it easy for the first run...... Then by all rights go Balls out??? Yeah... yeah thats exactly what I said.....
I also agree fully you should never DH alone, shouldnt really ride anything alone.... BUT Dh especially.....
In most every post I have had, I have repeated myself again and again... ****ty methods used for trail closure/erosion control whatever.......But fact still remains...... Rider could have overall been the one to prevent this.....
Rider should have scoped out the blind drop.... being it was his first run, after a snow season, on opening day......... too much could have been changed since the last time he was there....
How can anyone argue that nothing could have been changed at all.......
No... there is one VERY good reason you should still be checking it.... probably moreso somewere there are people taht are actually working on the trails......... Trail feature changes and modifications....
Again especially being this was opening day, right after what should have been alot of maintanence............. park could have completly rebuilt the landing........ Thats change you dont know about..... You should be looking.... again on your first run, scope it.... then by all means go hammer it
No... I am not conufsing it at all.......... I am saying simply, that with the use of the personal responsibility........... the side effect would have been that the rider would have seen this gross negligence, therfore saving himself the pain and headache.
Again somewere there is alot of maintenance, and were people are regularly updating and changing trails and features its actually more important to get a feed on the trails, and check them out............ Local trails dont generally have people out on a regular basis modifying the trails or features... Places dedicated to a sport do.... In fact most advertise that they are regularly changing and modifying trails.
I think it is absolutly retarded to lay your own safety at someone elses hands with this sport. Its been pointed out.... Diablo has 44 trails/runs...... How many of those will someone ride in a given day...... I doubt anyone here is going to ride every single run in one day...... Seriously, Your probably going to pick five or six trails and ride the **** out of them all day..... so your first run from top to bottom took 15 minutes instaed of ten..... Next run is balls out and you know damn near exactly what to expect aside from other riders, possible fallen trees, possible trail damage from excessive use ETC..... But you know if the features have been changed or modified
Please everyone look closer at what is being put into words, read it completly....... I am not argueing who is strongly at fault, I am not arguing that a stack of branches in the landing would ever be a good idea, Hell I am not even arguing taht the park would in fact have their asses handed to them in court.... Hell the park would be ****ed in this cases six times over minimum...... I am simply saying, that the byproduct of more personal responsibility will keep riders safer, the byproduct of checking **** before going into it blind after the off season/snow season would have shown the rider something was wrong..... I am not saying the rider should be looking for **** like this...... Just that it would have been seen.
Oh, for the record....... Other than the two private trails in my area..... None of the local trails<there is alot> have changed other than weather erosion......... Yet when BB was open, I found the trails Dramatically different every other weekend from trail work..... turns changes, burms modified, landings modified, sections cut out/added........Some of the runs up there were eight to ten minutes average..... My first run I would take fiften to twenty....... at the end of the day I still have 15 to 20 runs total........
Best comparision I can think of in situations like this
Your standing at a crosswalk waiting for the go light.... it changes, you step out without looking and get hit.... Yeah the driver is full on balls out at fault... There is no question about that at all...... BUT as the pedestrian, if you simply took five to ten seconds longer and looked first....... Your own personal responsibility just saved you the headache of the whole situation when the byproduct was seeing the jackass on his phone that isnt paying **** for attention........
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Whoa easy there fella.......You brought it up about not wearing it, someone is jsut asking why is all.....
Personally only peice of equipment I will give you **** about is a helmet....... All other gear is on you, you know the risk of with or without..... ride comfy
reread - it was NOT 1st run.
2nd - you state 'what if there's a rider down' -- is this phenomena exclusiveto a 1st run?
No? Your argument is now COMPLETELY debunked.
Stop.
No it isnt...... I did say on your first run, multiple times in this thread.....
The only reason I brought up the rider down on the landing was just to put into perspective who would be at fault then..... didnt really pertain to any wrong or right doing.......... just simply saying how a single situation
EDIT...... just reread my posts...... and in five prior to my last pointing out.... all had the same statement..... first run, take it easy and check your****.....then go for it.....
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And if Diablo was not a business, this post would make sense.
what is hopefully learned from this situation is for mountains to adopt better ways of closing off trails that were meant to be closed. off shoots of main trails, like Anthem, should have something a bit better then rope and debris (if thats what was used) to emphasize the fact that its suppose to be closed.
if someone actually did take down the debris and other trail blockers (but left the sticks on the landing
,) then they are assh*les. those types of things ruin it for the rest of us. plus if a trail builder has it closed, theres probably a pretty good reason for that.
a simple dry erase or blackboard with trail information can go a long way.
if someone actually did take down the debris and other trail blockers (but left the sticks on the landing
,) then they are assh*les. those types of things ruin it for the rest of us. plus if a trail builder has it closed, theres probably a pretty good reason for that.a simple dry erase or blackboard with trail information can go a long way.
I guess I'm glad I missed opening weekend.
Those photos are ****ing scary.
That's a bit of a chuckle. I'm guessing you haven't ridden Diablo, eh?
Ah...... It was though his first attempt at the drop...... in his description with the speed to srop it, by the time you see the landing there is no stopping......
Should be checking it first...
What I find really funny.... even the OP, the rider in question has come to say it himself..... Yeah he should have looked being the first time he was hitting it that day.........
Guess for some it just takes getting hurt to learn that lesson.
Again, its not about absolving the resort, its about looking out for yourself to prevent the situation in the first place.... wrong or right its about saving the headache over the long run
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You keep checking each feature every time you hit it, that is what you're saying, despite not conceding that.
Emjoy living in fear of everything and avoiding life because it might hurt you and refusing to accept that some things are out of your control, and the responsibility of others.
Next guy's gonna sue, we lose the mountain, all your idealism is for ****.
As I wrote in a previous post:
As I noted, if they changed/improved the feature and I hit it without looking, the onus is on me to either a) ride it out or b) crash and know that it was my fault. Logs placed lengthwise is intentionally dangerous and has no place in mtn biking!
As far as checking every single time, name one other product or service that you buy that you check every single time to make sure that it will work as intended? Do you walk ski runs to make sure that they are as the ski mountain described them? Do you check the lug nuts on your car after you've had your tires rotated in case the mechanics didn't torque them properly? Do you test food at restaurants for salmonella before eating your dinner? Do you personally do safety checks on rollercoasters before getting on them? Do you test the impact resistance of safety goggles before wearing them? Decibel readings for ear protection?
Those are all things that we assume are going to work as intended, since that's what we're paying money for. I don't know why you seem so intent on giving a mtn bike park a pass.......
Good god son....... can you not udnerstand what I say.......
I check my **** on my first run...... I ride the **** out of it after that.... NEVER did I say I check my **** every ****in run... thats retarded
Never did I say anything about the branchees being a ****ty idea, or that the people that put them there are absolved in any way...
There is no idealism here, its plain and simple, dont be retarded and put your full safety and trust into something you can simply take a few extra minutes to ensure for yourself......
Yeah you get seriosuly hurt, you sue, you win....... Ok you got cash, but your out of work, possibly paralyzed or whatever lifechanging serious injury you sustained...... when if you just nutt up and look out for yourself.... You lived, you did not get hurt by someone elses asshat move........
I will not concede that I do check **** on every run, that is never what I said, that is never what I was promoting......
God I hate when people put words into my mouth for me despite what I am listing......
You youngins just go right ahead and keep riding **** full on all the time without looking because "You paid the lift ticket fee, it should be right...."
Learn the hard way that people are people, humans make mistakes...........
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