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binary visions

binary visions

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At the intersection of fascism and technology, I've been thinking about how to transition to another email provider since Google is really not trustworthy anymore. Proton seems to have the strongest offering in the area of security and at a decent enough scale that I have some confidence they'll stick around, but fucking hell, the Proton CEO just started spouting off the other day with some bootlicking nonsense.

It seems awfully hard to find decent-sized tech operations whose C-suite isn't full of profiteering, hard right dickbags.
 
johnbryanpeters

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binary visions said:
At the intersection of fascism and technology, I've been thinking about how to transition to another email provider since Google is really not trustworthy anymore. Proton seems to have the strongest offering in the area of security and at a decent enough scale that I have some confidence they'll stick around, but fucking hell, the Proton CEO just started spouting off the other day with some bootlicking nonsense.

It seems awfully hard to find decent-sized tech operations whose C-suite isn't full of profiteering, hard right dickbags.
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I'd like to dump Google, sister uses Proton, on which I have an account that I have used perhaps twice, don't quite know what to do. Back to paper mail?
 
binary visions

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johnbryanpeters said:
I'd like to dump Google, sister uses Proton, on which I have an account that I have used perhaps twice, don't quite know what to do. Back to paper mail?
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I think I might move to a domain I own but hosted through $serviceOfTheDay (Google, Proton, whatever), that way I can take my email address(es) with me if/when I switch email providers.
 
jonKranked

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binary visions said:
At the intersection of fascism and technology, I've been thinking about how to transition to another email provider since Google is really not trustworthy anymore. Proton seems to have the strongest offering in the area of security and at a decent enough scale that I have some confidence they'll stick around, but fucking hell, the Proton CEO just started spouting off the other day with some bootlicking nonsense.

It seems awfully hard to find decent-sized tech operations whose C-suite isn't full of profiteering, hard right dickbags.
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maybe technology is the problem.
 
Sandwich

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binary visions said:
At the intersection of fascism and technology, I've been thinking about how to transition to another email provider since Google is really not trustworthy anymore. Proton seems to have the strongest offering in the area of security and at a decent enough scale that I have some confidence they'll stick around, but fucking hell, the Proton CEO just started spouting off the other day with some bootlicking nonsense.

It seems awfully hard to find decent-sized tech operations whose C-suite isn't full of profiteering, hard right dickbags.
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Been thinking about the same. I'm probably going to switch to apple mail, at least for a little while. While Steve Apple kissed the ring, apple is still the most isolated big data co around.
 
binary visions

binary visions

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jonKranked said:
money is not a new problem.
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Well. The concentration of wealth into so few hands is a (relatively) new problem.

But I do agree to some extent. I think the nature of tech leaders drives them to extremely libertarian views - "I made it here with nobody's help, so it's reasonable to expect that all people have equal opportunity and it's simply my exceptionalism that made me a success."

It's wrong, of course - stunningly ignorant. Musk and Trump are shining examples of this; men who are handed education and wealth and contacts and influence, and spend their lives talking about how they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. And it's fundamentally wrong on so many other levels that it's barely worth going into with someone who I know agrees with me.
 
rideit

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binary visions said:
Well. The concentration of wealth into so few hands is a (relatively) new problem.
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I must respectfully disagree…throughout history, there have (almost) always been Kings, Emperors, Pharoahs, etc, that had all of the wealth and power, and an elite class that served at their pleasure.
Not to mention slavery, yadda tarda.
It’s a relatively new experience that ‘peasants’ have, or deserve, any quality of life, or even a voice, socially or politically.
 
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rideit said:
I must respectfully disagree…throughout history, there have (almost) always been Kings, Emperors, Pharoahs, etc, that had all of the wealth and power, and an elite class that served at their pleasure.
Not to mention slavery, yadda tarda.
It’s a relatively new experience that ‘peasants’ have, or deserve, any quality of life, or even a voice, socially or politically.
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I mean, I'm not comparing our societal norms to ancient Egypt. So while I don't disagree (and also have no data about the wealth distribution of Egyptian society), I'm not sure it's germane to my point.

At no point in the history of the US have we had so much money in the hands of so few. Not even during slavery. I'm not just talking about income inequality overall - but specifically the 0.01% who have basically turned into dragons hoarding gold.
 
ALEXIS_DH

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rideit said:
I must respectfully disagree…throughout history, there have (almost) always been Kings, Emperors, Pharoahs, etc, that had all of the wealth and power, and an elite class that served at their pleasure.
Not to mention slavery, yadda tarda.
It’s a relatively new experience that ‘peasants’ have, or deserve, any quality of life, or even a voice, socially or politically.
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Wealth distribution in the US was worse than the french revolution times in 2016.
Am sure its much worse today
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rideit

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ALEXIS_DH said:
Wealth distribution in the US was worse than the french revolution times in 2016.
Am sure its much worse today
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I do not disagree, as far as the statistics show. But in terms of the human experience since the advent of civilization, most humans have suffered terribly, while a tiny, tine percentage had it all.
Yes, wealth distribution is insane right now, no doubt.
But the average poor person today lives in a manner that past kings and emperors could only dream of.
It’s a very ‘30,000 feet’ philosophical reality check.
 
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