Evil Bikes 2008
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Sam thing as Gee's commencal, obviously different style. Very cool design.
That sounds kinda nifty
Yea Evil isn't the first to use it, but I think theirs is the cleanest execution.
Is the inside of the tube offset, or do you just raise & lower it?
Actualy looks exactry the same as the one on the lapierre dh-230 (the pre 09 dh models). Commy had the sleave hidden If I'm not wrong.
Idk for certain, but I'm pretty sure its offset.
Not familiar with those lapierres. And what does communism have to do with adjustable head angles and hiding sleeves?
yes and they creaked like a .....
Both of the ideas seem to be more popular here in yurpAnd what does communism have to do with adjustable head angles and hiding sleeves?
I don't know, I kinda dig the commencal application, not so pronounced on the front. Great idea though.
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Commys? I've head of them breaking in other places but on the headtube?
Well there was always lapierre. 3.55kg frame weight and no cracks for 1.5season of heavy crashing (I do more of that than riding)
Just personal opinion yo! Besides:
1) 3 bolts > 2 bolts
2) I bet by cutting it out they saved like 30 grams :biggrin:
Nice but what about that "Sect"?
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Pacific cycles has made the "Front Porch" headtube for much longer and I think Scott had something similar more recently too.
cross bike?And now for something completely different...
-ska todd
ps i love the particle board. very klassy.
Aside from my trolling about this being a nice Sunn, I actually think this frame will be fantastic. I've said for a long time that the priority for DH frames should be, in order from most important:
- geometry/fit
- compression curve
- braking performance
- pedaling performance
I've never understood the emphasis on crazy linkages to improve pedaling on a DH bike when you're typically not traction limited under acceleration, but most definitely are when braking, and handling is more important than both. This frame seems to put geometry and shock performance first. Looking forward to test rides (and pricing).
- geometry/fit
- compression curve
- braking performance
- pedaling performance
I've never understood the emphasis on crazy linkages to improve pedaling on a DH bike when you're typically not traction limited under acceleration, but most definitely are when braking, and handling is more important than both. This frame seems to put geometry and shock performance first. Looking forward to test rides (and pricing).
The major difference between this bike and the Sunn (and it is a pretty big difference): the Sunn's shock is actuated from one end, the Evil's shock is actuated from BOTH ends.
Oh you trend follower you!
that would be so awesome - would love to replace my old school GT CRX frame with something new.
Edit: Nevermind, just read that it's a SS..not for me..
Like I said, I was trolling. And the very point of my post is that the geometry and compression curve being the most important thing, will set this bike apart from others much moreso than pivot point and structural design (which are what make it visually resemble some other frames). So in other words, it will be completely different than the Sunn.
oops. looks like I need to improve my reading comprehension lawlz.
nvm that
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I've heard it's supposed to be a fixie and that Kevin has been riding it all over Ballard.
I'll sell you a kickass frame. ME ME ME
I think it's less about traction issues when accelerating and more about getting the most out of the minimal pedalling opportunities on current DH tracks and bikes. BB heights of 13.8 and lower combined with increasing technical difficulty on a run means there are so few places you can get a stroke or half a stroke in; and most pedalling tends to involve frantic mashing (rather than anything near a controlled motion). The more forward acceleration you can get with the least wastage, the better.
I personally think a bike that pedals well is a lot more fun to train on as well, i.e stuff that involves more pedalling than lift/shuttle assisted runs. A quickly accelerating DH bike lets you spend more training time on the same bike you'll be racing on (without having to worry about pedalling a slug).
That aside though I do agree that geometry is of utmost importance, and if the Evil matches the paper claims, then it is spot on. Pretty keen to see some side-on shots of the real deal.
man that singlespeed is sexy...is evil thinking about doing a 29'er?
weagle's bikes are designed to be very neutral under braking but if i had to throw out a guess i would say that hole is so, if some nerd wants to run a floating rear brake they won't need a bracket, or any weird mounting, they can just bolt the eyelet right to that hole......
i could be wrong though...
We're actually designing our own wheel size 1/2 way between 650B & 29"... =P
In all seriousness, well I'm not saying "no" but I'm certainly saying "not now".
Just there b/c the part was designed to able to be extruded and the factory threaded it like on the drive side. No floater necessary.
-ska todd
looks like a good match to the frame
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i just noticed the interesting the placement for the rear brake hose mount down by the bottom bracket...
and whats that screw hole for next to the bb?
and whats that screw hole for next to the bb?
can also be a mount for some bashguard?