Evil?
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They should just pump out more Imperials and Plastic bash guards.... The masses loved those ****in' things.
different company
fixed it for you...
both of those are super old products. Evil bikes and E13 components are different companies now
Well of course, but we were talking about former products of Evil, weren't we?
Think for a minute. Who makes bikes and who makes chain guides? Right.
Nowadays it's companies mentioned by IH8Rice, but:
Who made Imperials and who made plastic bashguards? Evil.
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And you still don't get it. 2. Different. Companies. Now.
and once upon a time, cannondale made bikes in north america.
Maybe this is some lost in translation thing going on, I give up.
The old Evil (the makers of the imperial) did also produce products as e13. Evil got sold off and is run on the west coast now. e13 continued for a while but sold recently to The Hive who still sells things as e13. Needless to say, it's not the same guys running the show on either front.
I'll try for ya. He is saying to salvage their reputation, Evil should transform back into the company of old. Simple products that just work. New Evil should = Old Evil. Everybody knows that new Evil sucks and has nothing to do with the Evil that made imperials and started the poly bashguard revolution. Buuuut, to salvage the new company it must return to its roots.
yes. at that time Imperials and the plastic guards/chain guides were under the "Evil" name. but the Revolt was made by the "new" Evil bikes and the current E13 company has nothing to do with the bike company. they still make those poly carbonate bash guards though
get it?
the chainguides were first produced under the Evil name along with their bikes. the E13 came later on (after the bikes and chainguides split IIRC)
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Alright, I'm the stupid one, I thought you meant that the Imperial frames and plastic bashguards were made by two different companies called Evil, didn't realize you talked about the new and old Evil.
where's my e.13 frame?
wow, you guys missed the boat... no sh*t E.13 and Evil split, that was the point of the joke :facepalm: Not to mention it was years ago, before some people here were even riding w/o training wheels.
if that was a joke, then you must write for Gallagher cause it wasnt funny.
Why anybody would give a crap about this company blows my mind.
They might have had the best of intentions with the company, and it seems like they had some great people in it. I know they had a bunch of problems that were out of their hands (to a degree) but this lack of updates and stuff is horrible. From what I have heard they are still communicating with actual customers, but they've commited the biggest mistake they can marketwise by sstaying silent with no updates. It just looks bad. Its bad enough the frame cost what it did and died as it did, but this lack of update junk (for which there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON) would be more than enough to make me as a consumer look at any of the other dozens of companies that make non-cracking bikes and communicate with their audience.
They might have had the best of intentions with the company, and it seems like they had some great people in it. I know they had a bunch of problems that were out of their hands (to a degree) but this lack of updates and stuff is horrible. From what I have heard they are still communicating with actual customers, but they've commited the biggest mistake they can marketwise by sstaying silent with no updates. It just looks bad. Its bad enough the frame cost what it did and died as it did, but this lack of update junk (for which there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON) would be more than enough to make me as a consumer look at any of the other dozens of companies that make non-cracking bikes and communicate with their audience.
He must kick himself that he stopped the collaboration with Intense.
Can't speak for everyone, but I'm a bit nostaligic about Evil v1... in fact I still ride one
I know this company isn't the same guys, but it's unfortunate to see how things turned out. Still hoping they can salvage something.
i'm still waiting for this:
patent #'s or bust,cause im producing with pingpong the kid as my welder
Yep, here it is. My best use for my evil frame. Noise Maker at Nationals. Oh what a feeling to smash it on it for a while. Tired of the B.S. Ready for a new frame.
it should have been obvious when EVIL changed the name to E13 to please the corporate world, it was the beginning of the end...
So my cranks will soon be cool again!it's almost 2013
So my cranks will soon be cool again!it's almost 2013
Having watched the first Evil and then the Evil of Ill Repute from the beginning, I find it so weird and counterintuitive that this brand, which appeared so savvy about internet marketing at the time of their initial launch and subsequent relaunch, never chose to:
1) Simply update their damn website with signs of life. Not doing so looks straight-up sketchy!
2) Use the online forums to market (and simply communicate) to the hardcore, big-spending consumers and tastemakers on RM and other forums like other much larger, faster-growing and more successful companies have done.
Turner Bikes, e13, Maxxis, Intense and many of the 29er wheel start-ups have used RM and MTBR to their advantage for research, marketing and general consumer good-will. Ridemonkey in particular was ripe for Evil to engage with their consumers, but instead there's been this aloof radio silence that has crossed the line into arrogance.
Basically, my opinion is this:
1) Simply update their damn website with signs of life. Not doing so looks straight-up sketchy!
2) Use the online forums to market (and simply communicate) to the hardcore, big-spending consumers and tastemakers on RM and other forums like other much larger, faster-growing and more successful companies have done.
Turner Bikes, e13, Maxxis, Intense and many of the 29er wheel start-ups have used RM and MTBR to their advantage for research, marketing and general consumer good-will. Ridemonkey in particular was ripe for Evil to engage with their consumers, but instead there's been this aloof radio silence that has crossed the line into arrogance.
Basically, my opinion is this:
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Evil is done. They ceased communication with their dealers and their customers, effectively screwing over anyone who will give them business. If, by some miracle, the Undead comes to light, they will immediately need to replace a whole sh*tload of broken Revolts, putting them even further into the hole. Those who believe this frame will actually be produced and in our hands by December are delirious. Hang the Revolt up, move on, and buy a new frame from a reputable company that will stand behind their product.
i really hope that is not the case. but i dont have an undead to wait for
ms claims in the interview above that he paid most of the bills for the team by himself.
try translating this site:
http://www.nyx.at/bikeboard/Board/showthread.php?154159-Markus-Stoeckl
most infos should be there too.
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Cam-Zink-Worlds-Largest-Back-Flip-off-Drop-2011.html
Large backflip on an Undead
Large backflip on an Undead
I just pooped myself......
Serious stuff right there. He seems to abuse this bike quite a bit. The rear wheel afterwards:
I can't believe you can ride that out with a wheel trashed like this...
Seems like the bike held up
That video was pretty painful, but DAMN that was a man sized move.