at least it's not teh born agin...if these guys get into our prisons, they'll be spreading teh islam
It's the American way.Former detainees, human-rights advocates and government officials around the world welcomed President Barack Obama's decision to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center, saying Thursday it helped restore their faith in the United States.
The U.N.'s torture investigator, Manfred Nowak, said news that Obama will order the prison closed, review military trials of terror suspects and end harsh interrogations was a sign of goodwill by the new American administration. But he warned that shutting the prison will require difficult decisions and said freed inmates should be allowed to sue the United States if they were mistreated.
That's a waste of a perfectly good 51 Chevy truck.Put them all on a boat, preferably one made out of a 1951 Chevy pickup truck then mysteriously have it sink, I think Cheney should be the captain.
Problem solved.
It is like the oriental rug shop down the road that has been having a 50% off going out of business sale for the past 9 years.at the earliest.
I guess it depends on what they sell and who owns it?It is like the oriental rug shop down the road that has been having a 50% off going out of business sale for the past 9 years.
Edit: Sorry Sanjuro, should that be Asian American Rug shop?
better yet.........Put them all on a boat, preferably one made out of a 1951 Chevy pickup truck then mysteriously have it sink, I think Cheney should be the captain.
Problem solved.
Oriental Rugs are actually Arabic, or as I like to say, the Sand N.......It is like the oriental rug shop down the road that has been having a 50% off going out of business sale for the past 9 years.
Edit: Sorry Sanjuro, should that be Asian American Rug shop?
Where will college kids go for Spring Break, then?O also signed a decreet to close all of those secret, ex soviet airforce, bases that have been used for torture in places like Chekia, and also the island of Diego Garcia.
bzzt. will be closed within a year.at the earliest.
Crap I can't find the link I had, that said the goal that was stated in that NYT article you had , however realisticly, they said it would take a year.bzzt. will be closed within a year.
Because we are equal opportunity employers there. oster_oops:so if we're closing a perfectly good base because of some ethics violations.....why aren't we closing the white house?
Sping Break's some serious ****....I wonder if all those kids would have been so eager Obama supporters if they only knew he was such a party pooper. At least GWB is a party guy (I've seen him drunk during his years as a governor).Where will college kids go for Spring Break, then?
Only the detention part of the base, right? You don't mean that the whole base will be given back to Cuba??bzzt. will be closed within a year.
correct. i don't see any indication that the us will be embarking on a widespread campaign to close overseas bases, for better or worse.Only the detention part of the base, right? You don't mean that the whole base will be given back to Cuba??
upon closer inspection, this is more widely sweeping than originally reported (media's fault - not obama's).bzzt. will be closed within a year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/us/politics/23GITMOCND.html?hp
that's a tad unrealistic, and could come at the cost of another country's sovereignty if it's truly to be "made sure". overall i see this as window dressing, but a pretty wise move in the theater of presentation.and how the United States can make sure prisoners transferred to other countries will not be tortured.
Just like extradition treaties with countries who won't ship back their [absolute worst] criminals if they face the death penalty. You can't enforce a thing once they're back in the other countries' hands, but you can stop sending more if you know or suspect the opposite end of the line isn't doing what they said they'd do. (Or, in this case, much more likely that we keep shipping them over and remain blissfully ignorant of what happens after they're across the border...)as far as this goes:that's a tad unrealistic, and could come at the cost of another country's sovereignty if it's truly to be "made sure". overall i see this as window dressing, but a pretty wise move in the theater of presentation.
Make them citizens of Texas, show them what the true USA is all about, let them study and give them jobs according to their skills (no raghead discrimination), and you'll see how the US American way of life will change their minds. :twich:made for a good photo, made good on campaign promise, however, nothing of substance in regards to where to to put the Level 3s. We may not have a Gitmo detention center in a year but there will be a detention center somewhere. Bigger issue is how to try detainees. Still a lot of legal questions to figure out before this mess left by Cheney is gone.
I belive that a country that suspects that people they expell will get unfair treatment in the country they come to, then they're not allowed to do so by UN binding rules. A lot of these discussions in Sweden...upon closer inspection, this is more widely sweeping than originally reported (media's fault - not obama's).
as far as this goes:that's a tad unrealistic, and could come at the cost of another country's sovereignty if it's truly to be "made sure". overall i see this as window dressing, but a pretty wise move in the theater of presentation.
the article goes on to tell us about some dude who's in a s.c. prison, and that the cia's prison network is just south of 100.
i did not know that.
all in all, i believe cia & obama will work together to creatively - and legally - interrogate, house, & process our future guests. it's simply amazing to read what's still allowable under the geneva convention. i'd crack like bob barker's hip.
Released in November of 2007. So apparently, even using the Bush/Cheney mandate, we weren't able to dig up charges on this guy sufficient to stick. I wonder what his rank, expertise, and experience in Al-Qaeda were before his detainment?
Charges: maybe, maybe not. Detaining before you have a clear legal course of action in regards to trails vs. tribunals, legal, full definition of war criminal, etc. =stupid.Released in November of 2007. So apparently, even using the Bush/Cheney mandate, we weren't able to dig up charges on this guy sufficient to stick. I wonder what his rank, expertise, and experience in Al-Qaeda were before his detainment?
One more nail in the coffin of torture and illegal detainment.
Charges: if had anything, ANYTHING, dude most assuredly would not have been set free. Why weren't our enhanced techniques sufficient to find anything?Charges: maybe, maybe not. Detaining before you have a clear legal course of action in regards to trails vs. tribunals, legal, full definition of war criminal, etc. =stupid.
Rank, status, etc prior? Not relevant anymore is it? What's his rank, status, motivation now? Very relevant.
Ohio, if you'd quit worrying so much about being right, you'd see we agree on this, just stating it a different way.
My body subsists on correctness. I have no choice.Um, we agree you worry about being right?
We agree that Gitmo detention was a bad idea in the first place.
that eu sure is a funny outfit, complete w/ sequins i'm sureBRUSSELS, Belgium — European Union leaders said Monday they are willing to take prisoners being released from the U.S. detention camp at Guantanamo Bay — but only after detailed screening to ensure they don’t import a terrorist.
Foreign ministers from the 27-member bloc discussed the fate of up to 60 Guantanamo inmates who, if freed, cannot be returned to their homelands because they would face abuse, imprisonment or death. The prisoners come from Azerbaijan, Algeria, Afghanistan, Chad, China, Saudi Arabia and Yemen.