[Cooter Brown]

alright, I need to bounce some questions off of some of you folk about a dilemma I am having about my job situation

I have been unemployed since May of 09, recently, I took a drafting job with a temp service for a company, that for all I can tell, intends to hire me direct at the end of 90 days. I like the people I work with, the job is easy enough that I don't have to stress pairing it up with class work so I can complete my engineering degree & it's pretty laid back..... save one small issue. We are required to wear a shirt & tie every day. Now I know this doesnt sound like such a big deal to some of you but just bear with me.

I got a call back from another company here in town, went in for the 1st interview, liked what I saw, it too would be really laid back, good pairing with the whole schoolwork thing, aaaaaand, they wear jeans & shorts & **** to work. Well, now I got the call back for the 2nd interview, it's today at 430 pm. The way the engineering manager talked in the 1st interview, was such that, they would call back the top candidate, have them meet the rest of the engineering team, do a SolidWorks proficiency test & basically see if the person (me, in this instance) clicked with the rest of the team.

So, saying all that, here's my (somewhat ethical to me) dilemma......if offered the 2nd job, do I simply tell the staffing service my intent to leave? Talk with the shirt & tie managers & explain the situation & get more $$ & direct hire out of them?

oh, both pay nearly the same.......so, any input/ideas would help me in how to handle this small situation I am facing............

much grass

 

[MMike]

What is wrong with you people??? There is no ethical dilemma! It's business. You quit for a better job. Big deal!

I had one of my guys quit recently. It hurt. But there's no hard feelings. It was a better gig for him. I still email with him. He's a good guy. I'd take him back if he wanted to return. Why are there so many threads about people agonizing over improving their lives?

 

[Cooter Brown]

american slave labor mind control trick stuff

understood...... I was just looking for some monkey validation to boost my fragile self esteem

 

[TreeSaw]

I can't belive I'm going to say this but....I'm with MMike on this one. Go for the interview! See how you click with the other group and make an informed decision that is what's right for you. Temp agencies know they have turnover and it's just business...do what's right for you!

 

[moff_quigley]

You are working for a temp service though right? You leave for the permanent gig that you already know is the better fit for you. You aren't going to get more money from the 1st company. You have no leverage. Serve 2 weeks notice if it makes you feel better.

 

[SkaredShtles]

Go wear the jeans.

 

[I Are Baboon]

I'd definitely pursue the permanent gig rather than hang my hopes on a temp position.

 

[Westy]

The only think you really owe a job is 2 weeks notice and even that is debatable.

 

[sanjuro]

There is nothing wrong with negotiating for your next job.

After you get an offer from the second job, talk to the first and be honest and nice, and see what they say.

If the first job wanted to hire you, they still will, but they might sweeten the pot in someway.

Ultimately, you have to decide over pay, stability, and work environment. I personally would choose stability over the other two, but that's your call.

 

[MMike]

The only think you really owe a job is 2 weeks notice and even that is debatable.

I gave Bell Helicotper 8 days

 

[stevew]

What is wrong with you people??? There is no ethical dilemma! It's business. You quit for a better job. Big deal!

I had one of my guys quit recently. It hurt. But there's no hard feelings. It was a better gig for him. I still email with him. He's a good guy. I'd take him back if he wanted to return. Why are there so many threads about people agonizing over improving their lives?

americans are pussies.

 

[Heidi]

Hold out for an all nude job.

 

[jonKranked]

I'm in a temporary position myself right now (full time non-permanent). So I can relate.


Do the interview. Unless you've signed something stating your intent to stay with the company you're currently located, you can go wherever you want.


That being said, if you get an offer from the outside company but would prefer to stay where you are, speaker to your supervisor. Explain you have an offer from an outside company, but you haven't accepted yet. Let him know that you'd prefer to stay and become a permanent FT employee, but that you're ready to jump ship if nothing is going to become available - that is, don't pass on the outside offer unless you get something in writing about a permanent spot where you are.

That being said - and getting back to where I'm currently at - my boss knows I'm looking. He's told me that they'd love to bring me on as full time permanent (not through a contract agency), but there are no open positions, and non are expected to open up prior to the end of my contract (where I work, there are MANY people who have been here in excess of 30 years, so people are here for the long haul of their career but in a good way). They're also very willing to give me recommendations for another position because they know it will keep me in the industry, so that sometime in the future if something opens up with my current employer I would consider coming back.

 

[Westy]

I gave Bell Helicotper 8 days

That was probably 8 days too many for them.

 

[eaterofdog]

I would be sorely tempted by a job where I can smear sh!t on myself. Fringe bennies indeed.

 

[Westy]

I would be sorely tempted by a job where I can smear sh!t on myself. Fringe bennies indeed.

Your own or someone else's. The **** that is.

 

[MTB_Rob_NC]

In addition if you leave your current Temp place on good terms you could tell actual employer (Company A)to give you a call if they ever have a need in the future. That way you build a bridge and if things dont work out you could go back to Company A and save them the 10-30% fee they would have to pay the Temp agency to convert you to a full time employee.

 

[Leethal]

You bail on the temp job.. c'mon dude it is a temp job that MAY hire you on after 90 days.

 

[loco-gringo]

I'd be asking these questions to a stripper with a drink in my hand, if I were you.

 

[Cooter Brown]

I'd be asking these questions to a stripper with a drink in my hand, if I were you.

best idea i've heard yet.......

 

[Kanye West]

Temp job which MAY hire you after 90 days, with no paperwork stating any such thing vs. gainful full-time employment...gee, tough decision.

Do not ever take a temp-to-hire job real seriously because, guess what, they obviously don't take you too seriously.

 

[Serial Midget]

Every temp position has the potential to become permanent but few do - my only comment is that you seem satisfied with a job that's "easy enough" and don't really know what you're looking for. A job that was easy enough would kill me.

 

[cecil]

do a little research about the companies and how strong they are, imagine the company you chose goes belly up in 6 months

 

[DRB]

I think the operative word is may hire you. Take the first permanent offer that makes sense to you. Though with the way things are I would be very careful about burning any bridges. You never know when you may need them.

 

[SkaredShtles]

I think the operative word is may hire you. Take the first permanent offer that makes sense to you. Though with the way things are I would be very careful about burning any bridges. You never know when you may need them.

SCREW THAT! We don't need no jobs, let the muthafvckuhs BURN!!

 

[DRB]

SCREW THAT! We don't need no jobs, let the muthafvckuhs BURN!!

Says the employed sell out......

 

[SkaredShtles]

Says the employed sell out......

Watch it, yah bahstid.

 

[DRB]

Watch it, yah bahstid.

Well at least I know that you won't be coming for me from 8 to 5.

 

[Westy]

Well at least I know that you won't be coming for me from 8 to 5.

He can jerk off to you during his lunch break. Well that is if you talk dirty to him.

 

[SkaredShtles]

He can jerk off to you during his lunch break. Well that is if you talk dirty to him.

Long day of drinking, eh?

 

[Westy]

Long day of drinking, eh?

I took a few hours off from about 3:00-6:00. Naptime.

 

[DRB]

I took a few hours off from about 3:00-6:00. Naptime.

Naptime is the best part of the free life.

 

[Cooter Brown]

Every temp position has the potential to become permanent but few do - my only comment is that you seem satisfied with a job that's "easy enough" and don't really know what you're looking for. A job that was easy enough would kill me.

well, the 'easy enough' part of the job pairs with finishing my mechanical engineering degree, so no, I wouldn't want to take on a job doing analysis(?) of carbon nano tube structures or anything, & yes, once school is done, I'm like you, an 'easy enough' job would drive me batty

*UPDATE*
the interview went really well, the engineering team & I seemed to hit it off pretty well and the remainder of the interview went great (from my perspective anyway) & this looks like it will be a great fit for me. I will know something by Monday. Cross your collective monkey fingers (& toes) for me.

 

[UNHrider]

cooter werent you the one who also worked for SLB?

i got laid off last march and have been in a temp position ever since. Id take the sure thing in a heart beat. Just be upfront with the current employer once you get an offer, maybe theyll give you an offer as well, and youll have a choice.

 

[Cooter Brown]

UNHrider, yes, I worked for SLB & would go back at the drop of a hat, given the chance

 

[UNHrider]

did you ever end up in the field? i know things in bradford PA are ramping up, they recently hired 9 operators not sure if theyre looking for shooters/engineers though.

having said that i dont miss the field life at all.

 

[Cooter Brown]

Nah, never was in the field, I was at the Bartlesville & Lawrence Product Centers, Artificial Lift Segment designing, building & testing ESPs, motors, protectors & potheads & some REDACoil work too

cool stuff

 

[Nick]

Nah, never was in the field, I was at the Bartlesville & Lawrence Product Centers, Artificial Lift Segment designing, building & testing ESPs, motors, protectors & potheads & some REDACoil work too

cool stuff

you worked with TN?

 

[Cooter Brown]

I've ridden with TN & Laura

good folk

 

[UNHrider]

ah nevermind then. you dont want to go the field route anyways unless you get to work overseas. and i heard REDA field work was pretty terrible.