cowan DS
howler frame only
geometry looks slightly different on the two frames. I'd imagine the howler would be less expensive, but i like the SS option on the cowan. Any obvious pros/cons on these two?
not just a weld. but so you can run a giro. mr. cowan likes it like thatsanjuro said:the cowan has a fugly weld on the head tube, the howler they filed it off.
sanjuro said:the cowan has a fugly weld on the head tube, the howler they filed it off.
not sure if that's sarcasm, but looks like gyro tabs to me.sanjuro said:the cowan has a fugly weld on the head tube, the howler they filed it off.
Only when you have a pro-model will I listen to you bash other pros for having a pro model.The Kadvang said:HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAH cowans bike is so gay. Singlespeed fully with gyro tabs... he runs pegs too. If he could double peg the quarter in the boneyard it wouldn't be so bad. Oh Johnnnnnnnnnnnny
yes, I did that on my cove gspot when I trashed my rear derailleur on the trail.OGRipper said:Cowan DS looks like a thru-axle whereas the holwer is QR.
And someone correct me if I'm wrong but with the concentric on the Cowan, you would get no chain growth, so you could run a single speed without a tensioner. Pretty cool.
actually i think the cowan is qr aswell. i htink that hole is for a pegOGRipper said:Cowan DS looks like a thru-axle whereas the holwer is QR.
And someone correct me if I'm wrong but with the concentric on the Cowan, you would get no chain growth, so you could run a single speed without a tensioner. Pretty cool.
Cowan is a fag, if he wants pegs and a gyro, he should ride a BMX bike. It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't say he wanted to keep mountain biking mountain biking by banning certain kinds of bikes.escapeartist said:Only when you have a pro-model will I listen to you bash other pros for having a pro model.
I don't see a QR slot, looks more like two possible axle locations and a peg hole...lovebunny said:actually i think the cowan is qr aswell. i htink that hole is for a peg
i did not know that pegs and a gyro were requirements to be homosexual.Sherpa said:Cowan is a fag, if he wants pegs and a gyro, he should ride a BMX bike. It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't say he wanted to keep mountain biking mountain biking by banning certain kinds of bikes.
mandown said:i did not know that pegs and a gyro were requirements to be homosexual.
oh yeah, and all those tools that want to run shocks and gear-boxes should stick to riding motorcycles. we don't want any of that technology bleeding over this way. it will confuse us and give us too many options that would potentialy allow us to ride the way we want to ride. "any color you want, as long as it's black" - thanks mr ford
It's not the progression, it's the fact he disses people who ride 24's yet he has pegs and a gyro.mandown said:i did not know that pegs and a gyro were requirements to be homosexual.
oh yeah, and all those tools that want to run shocks and gear-boxes should stick to riding motorcycles. we don't want any of that technology bleeding over this way. it will confuse us and give us too many options that would potentialy allow us to ride the way we want to ride. "any color you want, as long as it's black" - thanks mr ford
You obviously don't understand the irony of cowan, who banned 24" rims from his contests because he thinks it isn't "mountain biking" putting pegs and a fvcking giro on a full suspension bike when he can't even grind... actually i think he does some sick tree stalls in NWD 6. Thats progression for you.escapeartist said:Only when you have a pro-model will I listen to you bash other pros for having a pro model.
Except cowan isn't progressing at all, hes on the way out.OGRipper said:HAHAHAHAHA! Yeah I don't understand the haters here. Progression happens, even if it means borrowing ideas from BMX and other sports - what, you think that stuff is all original? Come on, they got ideas from others too. Why do any of you really care if someone wants pegs or a gyro? Hell I'm so stoked I'm already working on my infinity bar spin peg stall on my 2-6...
Oh wait let me put it in language you can understand: Cowan DS roXors the soXorz!!!...LOLZ!!!...or whatever...
Yeah those pro mountain bikers are such superstars I wish I was like themdirtjumpP.1 said:envy is a bitch isnt it?
Sherpa said:It's not the progression, it's the fact he disses people who ride 24's yet he has pegs and a gyro.
I knew you'd be here soon enough. :love: Cowan is played.The Kadvang said:You obviously don't understand the irony of cowan, who banned 24" rims from his contests because he thinks it isn't "mountain biking" putting pegs and a fvcking giro on a full suspension bike when he can't even grind... actually i think he does some sick tree stalls in NWD 6. Thats progression for you.
Besides, your logic sucks. Thats like saying I hafta be president to criticise the president...
Cash-Money said:both bikes have 4.5 inches of travel, as far as i know. i think with so little travel the bob wouldnt be so bad. kona faux-bar doesnt pedal exceptionally well as it is, so i dont know how much the concentric pivot would change things. the howler is being sold as a complete bike with 1x9 gearing (kona chainguide as seen on 2005 cowan hardtail) with a 4" fork. I think the cowan DS will probably be my next frame purchase, RS pike, light(er) weight wheels, 34-16 gearing. seems like it'd be a fun little bike
Nah I just liek making people get heated on the internetdirtjumpP.1 said:ok, now what? bitch a little bit more? or realize that nothing anyone says is gonna change this one bike, or the rider of it? i vote for bitch more, but we should probably have a poll to see what the people want.
cowan is the biggest 24" hater there is, he hits keg stands off that hateradescurban said:If he is dissing people who run 24's, that must be new, because I seem to recall an article in decline written by him that was bitching about all the bitching going on at his jump jam when Grant Felder showed up with a 24" and won. I seem to recall that Cowen stood up for felder, and his 24" ways. If Cowen has gone all 24" hater like the rest of decline, then he's a hypocrite.
The Kadvang said:cowan is the biggest 24" hater there is, he hits keg stands off that haterade