Yeah that'd be cool, sounds like they're a very good option now.
I wonder if they've documented everything that changed from the point1 version somewhere.
Light flat pedals - any HT pedal experts? other suggestions?
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I wonder if they've documented everything that changed from the point1 version somewhere.
I had the OG podium and the 2. I preferred the OG. If I remember correctly, they were both 100x100 but the 2's felt smaller under foot. Must have been the pin placement. I never measured, but I think the exaggerated chamfered edges on the 2 placed the pins closer together. They felt small to me and also felt very flat. I could feel a small amount of concavity in the OG, but the 2's felt completely flat even with no center pins. They looked super cool, and cleared rocks super well, but I just couldn't get along with them. Pins were far from durable too but I didn't try the steel pins. Had I kept them I would have tapped them for straitline pins. I can't see those pins not sheering easily even in steel.
Take all that from someone that priorities concave, and platform size over all else. I wish I could like pedals like the podium 2's because they are light and they clear rocks super well.
Thanks for sharing @twenty666. That's a shame if they made the effective area smaller.
Any reason you thought the steel pins would shear easily, is it because they're still hollow?
The importance of concavity actually changes with the effective platform size (area within perimeter of pins), since with a smaller effective platform you'd need greater concavity to compensate for the lost grip (and it still may not be possible to). Dead flat doesn't bother me personally, but I do like a decent platform area, and I definitely draw the line at anything convex. I'm sure shoe size and shoe choice has a lot to do with it too.
If anyone is interested in a similar comparison between the Spike and the Oozy, I found the Oozy grips better because your shoes can squish into the open gaps of the pedal a little better (even though the center stayed the same), and because they increased the pin length (bit too short on Spike). Durability seems about the same to me and the weight saving is a bonus. The new pins also have slightly thinner tips so they'll eat shoes faster but not a big deal. The only downside is that they changed the seal design a little on the current Oozy so their Ti axle apparently doesn't work (I had a new pair of both old and new versions, so I just Ti'd the OG version). For some strange reason they also ditched the outboard reverse-entry pin on the current Oozy and replaced it with a normal pin - not a big deal but definitely inferior, so all in all the OG Oozy is the clear winner from the Spank field.
Interesting how not all changes are for the better.
As a sidenote (just in case it's useful to anyone), I found that these types of pedals (inboard large bearing) use fairly small balls, and since it's a very on-edge application, careful choice of grease can extend the practical life of the bearing significantly. Load capacity of EP greases varies drastically, I made a spreadsheet a while ago to narrow down the best choices. I picked the Castrol SBX2, as on top of very high load capacity, it uses a very high base oil viscosity and stays in place exceptionally well. Obviously be careful not to damage seals if regreasing cartridge bearings.
Any reason you thought the steel pins would shear easily, is it because they're still hollow?
The importance of concavity actually changes with the effective platform size (area within perimeter of pins), since with a smaller effective platform you'd need greater concavity to compensate for the lost grip (and it still may not be possible to). Dead flat doesn't bother me personally, but I do like a decent platform area, and I definitely draw the line at anything convex. I'm sure shoe size and shoe choice has a lot to do with it too.
If anyone is interested in a similar comparison between the Spike and the Oozy, I found the Oozy grips better because your shoes can squish into the open gaps of the pedal a little better (even though the center stayed the same), and because they increased the pin length (bit too short on Spike). Durability seems about the same to me and the weight saving is a bonus. The new pins also have slightly thinner tips so they'll eat shoes faster but not a big deal. The only downside is that they changed the seal design a little on the current Oozy so their Ti axle apparently doesn't work (I had a new pair of both old and new versions, so I just Ti'd the OG version). For some strange reason they also ditched the outboard reverse-entry pin on the current Oozy and replaced it with a normal pin - not a big deal but definitely inferior, so all in all the OG Oozy is the clear winner from the Spank field.
Interesting how not all changes are for the better.
As a sidenote (just in case it's useful to anyone), I found that these types of pedals (inboard large bearing) use fairly small balls, and since it's a very on-edge application, careful choice of grease can extend the practical life of the bearing significantly. Load capacity of EP greases varies drastically, I made a spreadsheet a while ago to narrow down the best choices. I picked the Castrol SBX2, as on top of very high load capacity, it uses a very high base oil viscosity and stays in place exceptionally well. Obviously be careful not to damage seals if regreasing cartridge bearings.
In my experience with Podium pedals the stainless pins are more likely to damage the pedal body in a strike than the aluminum ones which just tend to shear off. I would prefer to replace a couple pins than a pedal body.
+1 for this. I've been running mine for well over a year now, and they've been money. And that's coming from someone who finally converted to flats after 450 years on clips.
I have come to the conclusion that I am way too uncoordinated for flats.
Did you go straight from clips to a convex flat or did you try some more traditional style pedals with concave first?
I love the marketing, goes something like- The convex shape matches the natural arch of your foot. The little axle bulge on the Boomslangs almost stopped me from buying them, the OneUps look ridiculous!
I actually used concave pedals on my other bikes (DMR Vaults and the Forte alloy pedal) and never noticed any difference. In my case, it was more about proper pin placement/length and good shoes. As for OneUps, I also like the large platform size (making many other pedals feel like Trump hands in comparison) and the axle bearing design , which may be not be for everyone if you like your foot slam up next to the crank.
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Does that mean you've wrecked the current-gen pedal body by running stainless pins?
I'd rather have pins that don't vanish at first sight of rocks personally.
Spikes I bought in 2013 got retired last year, steel pins, pedal bodies and threads still intact:
So many pedal strikes over the weekend. Pedals looking haggard. This thread is suddenly interesting 
Are you missing something?So many pedal strikes over the weekend. Pedals looking haggard. This thread is suddenly interesting
Running shuttles in Georgetown CA. 8000ft of descending through some of the most consistently chunky rocky loose terrain I've ever ridden. Put a beating on my pedals.
Riding my Capra. All links accounted for.
My quads feel like someone hit them with a bat. Tried to roll them out. So painful
Perhaps you need Category 5 quads?My quads feel like someone hit them with a bat. Tried to roll them out. So painful
I am jelly. Out biggest descent is approx. 80ft deep.
You know what's fucking sweet? Lunch rides
You know what isn't? Fucking shitbags all over the sides of the trail
Fortunately, lunch rides >> shitbags on the side of the trail.
You know what else rules? Trail work where a formerly "meh" trail becomes a fucking hoot.
Fork is still making odd "crack" noise. Will ride the shit out of it Thursday, then head up to the mountains to ride the shit out of it Saturday and Sunday. Then take it into the shop and raise holy hell.
You know what isn't? Fucking shitbags all over the sides of the trail
Fortunately, lunch rides >> shitbags on the side of the trail.
You know what else rules? Trail work where a formerly "meh" trail becomes a fucking hoot.
Fork is still making odd "crack" noise. Will ride the shit out of it Thursday, then head up to the mountains to ride the shit out of it Saturday and Sunday. Then take it into the shop and raise holy hell.
I've got 3 different ~1700ft descents straight from my housePerhaps you need Category 5 quads?
I am jelly. Out biggest descent is approx. 80ft deep.
I threw the Boomslangs on a couple of weeks ago and they look really nice but they are a touch small and the bearings feel like the manufacturer has used sinkers as bearings, will be keen to see how they last.
On my first ride I got all excited with my small and low profile pedals and felt invincible, then I clipped something on the side of a rut and now have a few weeks off the bike.
On my first ride I got all excited with my small and low profile pedals and felt invincible, then I clipped something on the side of a rut and now have a few weeks off the bike.
I use the MG-5 little bigger and switch the pins to something that will grab the shoe.
Just threw on a pair of RF Atlas. They feel pretty ok.
I think I am having a bit of a problem getting the foot position right. My last pedals were square and the hexagonal shape of the Atlas makes my pinky toe feel like it's dangling off the edge of the pedal.
I think I am having a bit of a problem getting the foot position right. My last pedals were square and the hexagonal shape of the Atlas makes my pinky toe feel like it's dangling off the edge of the pedal.
I have been on the WahWahII,s for a few months now . So far they are a really good pedal , at times I feel clipped in they bite and fit the shoe so well , The bigger platform and pin layout is much better that the 1st generation design.
Anyone have opinions on Race Face Chesters? (Super stout plastic, apparently). Thinking of getting some for wife and kiddo...
They're on my girlfriend's bike which I cruise around on from time to time at the BMX track. They feel good to me. Best plastic pedal I've been on. Plus pretty colors, that's why I got them for her. She likes the purple
Boomslangs are off and the Horizons are back on, they developed a really annoying clicking sound that could be felt through the frame.
Pretty disappointing as they didn't even see a month of riding, the NPs are beautifully smooth in comparison.
Pretty disappointing as they didn't even see a month of riding, the NPs are beautifully smooth in comparison.
That sucks, I wonder if there was a defect when new from what you said. Going to get them warrantied?
I liked the Nukeproofs when I had them, wish the outer pins were reverse entry but good solid product.
I removed all the non reverse entry pins today and I prefer it that way, they feel a bit grippier.
A friend worked in a Spesh shop and warned me about the bearing issue but I figured I'd give them a shot, my Bennies were replaced on the spot when I had an issue with one of them.
I thought it was my cranks as they are a strange design, I don't think I have them set up quite right and the company that made them is long gone. Figured I'd swap the pedals out after removing and reinstalling the cranks twice and that got rid of the noise.
I read this review on the Spesh site after buying mine so it may be a common thing-
Rated 2 out of 5 stars
Creaking and Clicking...
7 months ago
MCM564
Oakland, CA
I JUST bought these pedals from Mikes Bikes and they feel great, HOWEVER, they creak and click on every pedal revolution! I tried everything to shut them up, but no luck. I just bought a brand new 2018 SC Nomad, and its riding super slick and quiet TILL I installed these pedals. Going to see if I can get a refund from Mikes Bikes.
Well shit. Just picked up a pair of Bennies for cheap DJ pedals.
I really really really like my new DMR Vaults.
It was one side and it just developed a bit of play, they were a really nice little pedal and the replacements lasted pretty well. First ones probably did 1000Miles before I took them in, had a few rock strike marks too.
I have boomslangs on 3 bikes, one for 3 years and 2 for 2 years - for me they have great pedals with no obvious defects or durability issues. I'm a hack so I'm probably missing something...
Any thought on the DMR V12 Magnesium? The price and weight is looking good. I agree the Vaults seem to be superior, but they are currently 50% more expensive at CRC.
They would be for my girlfriend (beginner rider). I am thinking the V12 may be the most interesting option for her in terms of Quality/Price ratio.
I am mainly a clipless pedal rider. I really don't have that much experience with flat pedals. Thanks!
They would be for my girlfriend (beginner rider). I am thinking the V12 may be the most interesting option for her in terms of Quality/Price ratio.
I am mainly a clipless pedal rider. I really don't have that much experience with flat pedals. Thanks!
I have a new black pair in a box, never ridden. I ordered them after I got the Vaults as a cheaper alternative for the 2nd bike but they are neither as grippy nor as concave as the Vaults. PM me if interested.
I like RF Chesters for beginner riders, girls in particular. They're cheap, pedal to shin interactions might be a bit easier on the shin, and they come in lots of colors.
bit of necromancy 
Anyone try the new shimano M8040 XT pedals?
thinking of replacing the 10 year old wah wahs i inherited on my bike and stuck between the new XTs and Nukeproof Horizons.
They both look pretty good, but are shimano's internals better than the HT style bushing internals in the nukeproof?
Anyone try the new shimano M8040 XT pedals?
thinking of replacing the 10 year old wah wahs i inherited on my bike and stuck between the new XTs and Nukeproof Horizons.
They both look pretty good, but are shimano's internals better than the HT style bushing internals in the nukeproof?