its actually a code to understanding them. once you understand the code, you understand mavic. except for their pedals.god damn it is hard to keep up with mavic and all their numberz!
Yep, all '8' series rims are tubeless, '7' series rims are the highest grade alloy (Maxtal) non-tubeless rims, '5' series rims are an alloy grade down (there aren't many of these), and the '3' series are their most basic, entry-level rims. The numbers following the series number refer to the width. Pretty simple.its actually a code to understanding them. once you understand the code, you understand mavic. except for their pedals.
there you have it. mavic's konami code.Yep, all '8' series rims are tubeless, '7' series rims are the highest grade alloy (Maxtal) non-tubeless rims, '5' series rims are an alloy grade down (there aren't many of these), and the '3' series are their most basic, entry-level rims. The numbers following the series number refer to the width. Pretty simple.
So Mavic has a new rim that is still way too narrow for anything but XC use?Yep, all '8' series rims are tubeless, '7' series rims are the highest grade alloy (Maxtal) non-tubeless rims, '5' series rims are an alloy grade down (there aren't many of these), and the '3' series are their most basic, entry-level rims. The numbers following the series number refer to the width. Pretty simple.
Your comment is nonsensical because Mavic uses inner rim width, not outer rim width like most other companies.So Mavic has a new rim that is still way too narrow for anything but XC use?
Siiiiiiick!
I'll be pumped when they have an 830.
no one needs a 35mm wide rim.that said, a group of EX829, 823 and 819 would cover the 'needs' of people better than 823, 821 and 819.
i made them in person. you obviously didn't hear them over the internetbut not with ' '
regardless, I went from 729s to 823s to save weight, but the ride using the same tire is night and day.
Get the 521 cheap and replace them when they crack.Meh. I want a 723, or a 721 without the rim brake sidewalls that collapse/crack on rocks. I'd rather shave my scrotum with a butter knife than run tubeless again.
if you decide to, hook me up with a link to thisI'd rather shave my scrotum with a butter knife than run tubeless again.
Wrong, they just don't know it yet.no one needs a 35mm wide rim.
They are pretty similar to the rims used on the Crossmax SX, so I'd say they fall into the 'light-duty DH' category or squarely in the 'heavy duty All mountain/Enduro' category. It should address the segment that you found lacking in their line - and it should have been in there years ago IMO.so are these trail-weight rims, or DH-weight rims? I'm on Flow EXs now. Something in that weight range would be lovely, even if they'll be a little less wide. Ideally, I'd love to see an 823 coming in at around 500g. Would that be an XM 823 or an EN 823.
Funny anecdote: as I typed this, I went on Mavic's site to figure out the difference between EN, EX, and XM. When using their "rim finder" I checked "All Mountain" for "Practice", "yes" for UST, and tire sizes 2.1 to 2.5. They don't offer a rim for that tire combination. Which is very surprising since it seems to comprise a large part of the market, or at least represents a large segment.
What rim have you ridden over 30mm internal width? You talking old doublewides or surly fatties or something?Wrong, they just don't know it yet.
Have you ever ridden a rim over 30mm wide with a tire that actually fits correctly? It works quite well.
i think arrox dhx's were that wide. i had both those and doublewides (even a 24" dubble) bitd.What rim have you ridden over 30mm internal width? You talking old doublewides or surly fatties or something?
now you've got me excited. I can even feel my heart rate go up a little...They are pretty similar to the rims used on the Crossmax SX, so I'd say they fall into the 'light-duty DH' category or squarely in the 'heavy duty All mountain/Enduro' category. It should address the segment that you found lacking in their line - and it should have been in there years ago IMO.
And all those rims are too narrow to give a tire over 2.1" a decent profile. These days most people consider sub 21mm to be purely XC, 23-25mm for AM, and 25+ for DH. The Spike 28 is an AM/Slopestyle rim. For DH people use the Subrosa 25mm or the Spike 29mm. Mavic is the only company stuck on narrow rims and besides a few loyal customers most of us don't get it.Mavic 721 is 21mm inner and 28mm outer. 823 is 23mm inner and 29.5mm outer.
Compare that to something like the Spank Spike 28...28mm outer, but 23mm inner.
They seem to be 29" version only, so far.WTB i25
What do you mean hasn't been excited? Durability issues? I remember pinkbike tested the mx35 and they were optimistic even if the test was short.Yes, it did. It's called MX series. 4 different widths.
However, there are not much reviews on English-speaking forums... Maybe on bike-news.de?
Moreover, German's Bike magazine hasn't been exited about them during the test, even though, it's a local product/brand.
Pinkbike?? Pinkbike?? Pinkbike is a optimistic about every product they test; that's why companies give them product to test. They are an industry promotion machine and not much more.What do you mean hasn't been excited? Durability issues? I remember pinkbike tested the mx35 and they were optimistic even if the test was short.
Arrow dhx, 37mm external. A beast of a rim, served me well many years ago.i think arrox dhx's were that wide. i had both those and doublewides (even a 24" dubble) bitd.
From what I managed to find and understand, rims dented quite easily.What do you mean hasn't been excited? Durability issues? I remember pinkbike tested the mx35 and they were optimistic even if the test was short.