there's needle bearings in the 8.25's; dunno about the old dh-1'sWhat frame does he have? According to the PDC site all their frames use sealed needle bearings.
my favorite part of the banshee blog was when they slagged other bike makers for not having engineers on staff to help with the design process. this from the company who gave us the scream, a bike built with the philosophy of "throw in everything, including the kitchen sink."
True but...... Fair enough if it's a lightweight race bike built to be light,but not to last more than a season,(that's really only Pros bikes)the Banshees are not. I'm sure they're strong and I don't know what abuse the failed ones got,but bikes like Brooklyns(and I'm sure other brands too) don't fail that quickly,and they'd be the same sorta weight.If Banshee fixed the weekness,then great(evoloution)but redone welds doesn't sound like much.Remember, DH Frame are only so strong, proper suspension tuning and smooth riding are also key factors in a frames durability.
Just wing an e-mail to info@bansheebikes.com stating why you feel you would be a good person to get one of the 50 frames.looks sick! i just posted a thread on it and deleted it, i missed it while i was in belgium.
anyone knopw how someone can get their hands on one?
yea jason, gave me jay's email so i emailed him telling him jason sent me and why i thought i should be privelaged enough to buy one. gave him my riding/racing info, that id give feedback, and that kinda ishJust wing an e-mail to info@bansheebikes.com stating why you feel you would be a good person to get one of the 50 frames.
we are not just looking for super fast racers, we also want people who race regularly in any category and ideally have mechanical knowledge or engineering background to give good feedback to us.
the prototype dh-1s used needle bearings too. the problem was that they used o rings to take the up the lateral loading. those gave loads of friction.there's needle bearings in the 8.25's; dunno about the old dh-1's
yeah, that's my main criticism of that system. not sure if the friction is really detrimental on the trail; i just like supple suspension. if you preload the o-rings adequately to eliminate lateral slop, it takes a bit of effort to cycle the suspension without the shock - which bugs me. i spoke with kyle a while back, and the 2nd gen 8.25 design he was working on used cart roller bearings (like everyone else) to eliminate this issue. which of course is moot if he never actually builds them...the prototype dh-1s used needle bearings too. the problem was that they used o rings to take the up the lateral loading. those gave loads of friction.
The blog is up http://bansheebikes.blogspot.comIs this bike ever going to be built? The blog has been deleted.
Great info.The blog is up http://bansheebikes.blogspot.com
I'm actually at the factory right now going over how to machine the shock basement. It's really quite involved and is taking sometime to figure out the best way to make it considering how we want it to look.
ha! so you admit that it's all about looks and not function!The blog is up http://bansheebikes.blogspot.com
I'm actually at the factory right now going over how to machine the shock basement. It's really quite involved and is taking sometime to figure out the best way to make it considering how we want it to look.
Hahahaha... i deny everything.ha! so you admit that it's all about looks and not function!
j/k... its a sick looking whip!
on their web page the weight of 8-9 lbs is without rear shock...
yup in that ballpark would be pretty sweet.
considering Giant glory is apparently around 12.5lbs w/shock and sunday is meant to be around 12lbs ish with shock from what I have read.
so legend is going to be very competitive.
Sorry, I stand corrected!The Sunday is 10.25 lbs with and air shock and 11.05 with a coil over. Frame only is in the 8s.
The Socom isn't 8lbs. Additionally, its not 8.5lbs. Then you still have to add the seat collar, and rear axle.like the soccom! everybody has snapped their soccom cause its only 8 lbs with shock!
wait....hm. has anybody snapped a soccom? I think I heard about it from a guy who had heard about it maybe happening on mars or something
There's this thing called claimed weight. Just because a company tells you their part weighs something does not mean it will be that. I don't know where you pulled 8lbs for the Socom out of but its not even close to that.9.5 lbs (and theres no way that a seat collar and rear axle weigh MORE then that, my glory axle is one of the heaviest out there and it weighs about 1/2 lb. is still lighter then 11.05 which is still lighter then 12.5. Theres plenty of DH capable bikes that weigh alot less then 12.5 lbs w/shock.
my 2007/8 LARGE Turner DHR with a fox dhx and a ti spring, axle, and seat collar was 10 pounds on the dot.....DHR is 10.4 ish? with axle, coil, seat colar
Keith said the machining on that one is just a rush-job to get it ready for the show (hence all the machining grooves), the production versions will be smooth. Looking very cool though.Im super stoked to get one when they are ready. Probably some of the most surface machining a frame has ever seen. That and keith actually has some real engineering in the frame for the suspension tuning. It is definitely going to change people's opinions about banshee...