Dude what are you trying to get at, you ask me to give you reasons and then you come back with some statement about how so pro's can ride perfectly fine on them. Ok cool what ever so UFC champ Matt hunter can ride one, what does that have to do with me? I felt the higher standover hieght did not feel comfortable when hitting drops thats all. It really just comes down to personal preference. Just becuase the FSR four bar link is the most popular link on the market doesn't make it the best or the worst technology. I know I'm not the only one who dosn't like the feel of the horst link, so its really not that wierd that i don't like the feel of them. Anyways I dont like the 4 bar/frs/horst link. so its not a frame i'd like to spend money on. Anyone have any luck with specifically the 7point frames. Thanks for any info u can find on buying them