New Whip? New toys for the dependable steed?
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At least they offer it all as a kit now. I have the small pump and keep a couple of small zip ties in the tiny bacon container too. An extra mount means I swap it between a couple of bikes. Tube strapped to the frame has a Park tyre boot and stick on patches in with it too.
70cc EDC Pump Kit
If you're looking for the easiest, most compact way to carry tools and air on every ride, the 70cc EDC Pump Kit is the way to go. It has all the functionality you need for trailside repairs. And the pump is easy to switch between any bike with a Pump Mount. The 70cc EDC Pump Kit includes the...
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I do carry a Dynaplug Racer Pro in my bike wallet also. That's been my favourite tyre stabber for a while now. Longer rides will have other stuff in my pack, but for the local close to home stuff where I might not have a pack or just my LA bum bag, those are my go to.
Pump won't fit into nomad or slash glove box and my old as tool..this is what I need smaller set ups for that work well and reliable . Put them in glove boxes and leave em..
Would definitely like a spoke wrench if possible as well...
Would definitely like a spoke wrench if possible as well...
Yeah mine are right hand bottle cages.. I'll have to go to bling and see what he has... Try a couple out ..I don't mind stuffing them in packs inside down tube but that pump doesn't fit. The slash goes narrow on bottom part due to cable routing guides...
So 1 pumo with everything in it, or a shorter pump and seperate tool but I'd like a dart tool..figure a few ounces and if I'm going to start carrying stuff might as well cover the bases..
Co2 or pump? I know one is 1 or 2 times other is till it breaks (shit tons of use)...
.which is preferred or both Incase valve is plugged with sealant.
When we do big rides or go way out even on long shuttles I'll bring pack and a shock pump for fork as well ..just for mid travel support usually . And others who may have under inflated or lost pressure.
For me if I carry I don't want a shit ton of weight don't mind a little inconvenience if something being a little small but ultimately:
Tire Pump (good for suspension as well)
Darts
Small tool (with spoke wrench and chain tool)
Probably won't carry a tube and levers... Those rides the camelback is on...
.which is preferred or both Incase valve is plugged with sealant.
When we do big rides or go way out even on long shuttles I'll bring pack and a shock pump for fork as well ..just for mid travel support usually . And others who may have under inflated or lost pressure.
For me if I carry I don't want a shit ton of weight don't mind a little inconvenience if something being a little small but ultimately:
Tire Pump (good for suspension as well)
Darts
Small tool (with spoke wrench and chain tool)
Probably won't carry a tube and levers... Those rides the camelback is on...
Would rather have the bacon tool and other spares than the CO2. Small or large can carry those.
You can thread Dynaplugs into the OneUp bacon stabber holder thing if you don't want to carry them separately. Not sure if they'll fit in the 70cc pump though.
So I measured my pump it's 9.5"
It'll fit tight into nomad won't fit into slash ..
The 100cc is 10" and the 70cc is 7"...so looks like I may go 2 70cc's...
V2 lite tool and bacon or plugs....
I'll throw em in storage bags with cliff bars I keep on bikes.. and Skittles for blood sugar crash..
I'll put one together first and see what it is do different then do the other . I looked at Mount it doesn't look like it'll get past the flatt glove box door and frame.
It'll fit tight into nomad won't fit into slash ..
The 100cc is 10" and the 70cc is 7"...so looks like I may go 2 70cc's...
V2 lite tool and bacon or plugs....
I'll throw em in storage bags with cliff bars I keep on bikes.. and Skittles for blood sugar crash..
I'll put one together first and see what it is do different then do the other . I looked at Mount it doesn't look like it'll get past the flatt glove box door and frame.
If,you were to carry a separate tool and pump setup in the storage bags in glove boxes...
What would the best set up be??. Pump, tools, plugs, CO2 can all fit pump has to be 8.5" or shorter.
Im not tool savvy for portable my crank brothers has been awesome and I used to keep a leather and wave for oddball shit in pack....
What would the best set up be??. Pump, tools, plugs, CO2 can all fit pump has to be 8.5" or shorter.
Im not tool savvy for portable my crank brothers has been awesome and I used to keep a leather and wave for oddball shit in pack....
that electric pump is 120g. also doubles as a pressure checker that automatically tops up to your preferred pressure. 0-1.5 bar in just 70s
The Lezyne pump I had beat the absolute shit out of my frame, then from time to time the Chuck would unscrew the of valve core.
I have a few multi tools and still like the Lezyne stainless one the most. It has nice strong aluminum side plates so I can undo the rear wheel bolt because I can properly lean on it. Other tools have snapped or bent on the past.
The Lite tool and the EDC V2 are different things. The Lite tool doesn't have a chain breaker or anything. Just a bunch of Allen keys. Double check which one you want first.
That thing wouldn't work for me. I either don't need a pump on a ride or I need it waaaaaaay too much. There seems to be no middle ground. Might be handy on the commuter bike or something but on the enduro I normally persist trying to plug things badly to get me home and topping it up repeatedly until I give up and put a tube in.
Might be worth chucking one in on the gravel bike though.
This is why I haven't relied on CO2 for a looong time. Too many experiences going through multiple cartridges only to not fix the tire. That and the need to re-supply, the cost, environmental impact, etc. With a pump you buy it once and you've got unlimited air for yourself and other people for a long time. I can see it for racers (I guess) but otherwise no thanks.
I've got a Leyzne Alloy Drive going on 10+ years of continuous use. Thing is like 7.5" long and does everything I've ever asked from a mini pump. Best tool ever.
I normally take a big CO2 cartirdge when I'm doing marshalling on the multi day enduros just in case one of the racers needs to reseat a tyre or something impossible with a hand pump.
Its bonkers how ill-prepared some attendees are for proper backcountry misadventures. I've seen riders walking out because they didn't have a way to remove a tubeless valve to install a tube.
Same. The big pump works great, and I got suckered into getting the plug kit too (rather than a CO2)
Def recommend the big pump over the smaller one…
If you don't get the plug thingy or put a CO2 on it, theres a little storage tube you can put there which is handy for holding a joining link for your chain and a spare Presta core or whatever.
Some thoughts on EDC & pumps etc.
*having a multitool on the bike is nice for doing quick adjustments like stem/brakes/saddle/dropper
*most of my rides are 2hrs or less and pretty close to my house, so I don't bother bringing a pump (or backpack). I bring the 70cc for longer rides, with a CO2 in the handle because it makes reseating a bead easier if the flat warrants a boot/tube. If it's just a puncture that I plug with bacon, I just use the pump.
*I've never had the threaded EDC steerer tube top cap back off while riding, and have been running one on all my bikes since they were first introduced
*for just grabbing the mini multitool to tweak your brakes (for example), the Specialized SWAT system is the fastest (open hatch and it pops up). The OneUp EDC Lite is second (you've got to pop off the little plastic cap), and the full EDC carrier is the longest (you've got to got to stick the carrier back in the steerer/pump and the lever in your pocket while you work, then reassemble it all to stow).
*for more involved repairs, the EDC is a bit more versatile than the SWAT. You have easier access to the spare quick link and chainbreaker (SWAT requires unbolting the bottom part from your steerer tube). You can also still do 8mm in a pinch with the EDC tool (the 6mm + the little flathead thing work together to make an 8mm). And EDC carrier lets you have a preloaded bacon jabber with spares, and carry mini chain pliers.
*I agree I wouldn't want to rely on the EDC tire lever for backcountry rides. For those I carry a second real tire lever with a tube.
*having a multitool on the bike is nice for doing quick adjustments like stem/brakes/saddle/dropper
*most of my rides are 2hrs or less and pretty close to my house, so I don't bother bringing a pump (or backpack). I bring the 70cc for longer rides, with a CO2 in the handle because it makes reseating a bead easier if the flat warrants a boot/tube. If it's just a puncture that I plug with bacon, I just use the pump.
*I've never had the threaded EDC steerer tube top cap back off while riding, and have been running one on all my bikes since they were first introduced
*for just grabbing the mini multitool to tweak your brakes (for example), the Specialized SWAT system is the fastest (open hatch and it pops up). The OneUp EDC Lite is second (you've got to pop off the little plastic cap), and the full EDC carrier is the longest (you've got to got to stick the carrier back in the steerer/pump and the lever in your pocket while you work, then reassemble it all to stow).
*for more involved repairs, the EDC is a bit more versatile than the SWAT. You have easier access to the spare quick link and chainbreaker (SWAT requires unbolting the bottom part from your steerer tube). You can also still do 8mm in a pinch with the EDC tool (the 6mm + the little flathead thing work together to make an 8mm). And EDC carrier lets you have a preloaded bacon jabber with spares, and carry mini chain pliers.
*I agree I wouldn't want to rely on the EDC tire lever for backcountry rides. For those I carry a second real tire lever with a tube.
IMO, for race CO2 was often the choice because so much faster, but one BB-gun CO2 isnt big enough so you need the bigger 20g at least for just one shot. I can see electric replacing that. But for any old ride, ill stick to an “analog” pump I can screw with endlessly in any temp (and not all work great in low temp). Especially when a plug fails and you need to use more than one, etc. The battery lasting maybe 2-full fills is a failure point I dont want hours out.
I have had a Granite Designs Bacon Strips/tool inside my cranks for six months, it hasn't fallen out yet.
$20. Don’t tell anyone.
4 full fills for the one i posted, there is already a bigger portable one from the same company. for at home i switched over to their biggest a8 model, 490g for 18 refills. yet that model is still small enough (173 x 65 x 36mm) to fit in a backpack that you could use it for really big rides. just setting the desired pressure and the pumps stops when reaching it is worth it in gold, never going by feel again
I got this when I was recovering from a broken hand and liked it so much I've kept using it. You can either use a water bottle mount or the zip tie mount it comes with. It's much faster and easier to pump a tire compared to a hand pump.
Call me skeptical for the # of fills. I think some of the environmental conditions may be a little too optimal (indoors, stable bike, temp, etc.).
I'm not exactly a minimalist but I don't want to carry something that big. Also, what's it weigh?
As for the pressure, it doesn't really matter on the trail, on the rare occasions I get a flat that sucker is getting pumped to about 1000 psi for the rest of the ride.
And gawdamnnit, I don't need another thing to keep charged, bike or otherwise.
21 psi is where id be hitting the rim, i had closer to 28 in the last 50 mile race and still cracked a rim, but i did take a real risky line towards the end. The reason i say is it seems the last few psi seem to take a lot more power, so how many fills to 25psi would be interesting to me, if it scales linear, and will it do a fat tire to 10?
also, i find it often takes around 10 additional to set a bead.
Finally made it out to test drive the 5010. I need some more time on it. After riding bikes that were too small for the last year, it's weird to be able to adjust the saddle and bars around.
The last SC I had was a Blur TR, the aluminum 26" bike. I broke the linkage and hadn't tried one since.
This 5010 is alot stiffer. I'm stoked so far. It came together without major issues.
I'll try to get a weight on it - it feels like 30 lbs.
I'll let you know, last night it was awesome! Loving the dual air chambers also.
Bathroom scaled my bike @ 33 lbs. Not bad! I could shave weight if I wanted to spend $$$$$
Sweet ride, super nice build! How are you liking the Shigura brake set up? Which levers and calipers?
lawdy that dropper has as much travel as a DH fork