epic, just epic
epic, just epic
It's in storage right now. It only sees use at burning man and the occasional mid summer bar run. I may have some pics from burning man with it in there but nothing close up.PICS PLS
when are you guys gonna bust out a review of that badbeaver?"Everything's just sales talk until you get in the saddle of a Shockster equipped hardtail." - The Shocker
As soon as they make a ti spring kit for it we're supposed to get one. That and they need to add some platform to it I heard Bender was hucking with one and they're amazing.when are you guys gonna bust out a review of that badbeaver?
I totally forgot I sold you that thing. Why not just put a spare rear wheel in the front? It'd already be aligned for the V-brakes too!It's in storage right now. It only sees use at burning man and the occasional mid summer bar run. I may have some pics from burning man with it in there but nothing close up.
I bought the second one after finding something on line where someone had bolted another one on a rigid fork and used an ungodly amount of spacers to get the front wheel to 135mm. I haven't done the mod yet due to lack of interest but probably should once I dig the bike out this spring. Should be pretty retarded looking.
I was already thinking about digging it out this weekend and doing this Winter makes teh boredom.I totally forgot I sold you that thing. Why not just put a spare rear wheel in the front? It'd already be aligned for the V-brakes too!:
Unless you've been your opinion is useless to meBurning Man?
I was already thinking about digging it out this weekend and doing this Winter makes teh boredom.
Unless you've been your opinion is useless to me
That actually makes sense. It might be the only place he ever sees topless women without having to tip them.Well my older brother went... If he's into it, its GOTTA suck! Seriously! He wrote code for a living and had two cats at once while living alone.
Topless woman with more hair than me and some of which could probably use a Willi Waller 2006That actually makes sense. It might be the only place he ever sees topless women without having to tip them.
You couldn't possibly be more wrong. Besides you shave your legs with more attention than most women anyway.Topless woman with more hair than me and some of which could probably use a Willi Waller 2006
and you take me seriously...You couldn't possibly be more wrong. Besides you shave your legs with more attention than most women anyway.
The well to do and very well shaven far outnumber the stinky hippy contingent.
Like I said. If you've never been.........
Anyway sorry to highjack this thread from it's intent.
The shockster is a great product.
He's very polite. He would tip them anyway.That actually makes sense. It might be the only place he ever sees topless women without having to tip them.
The Sunday's axle path is not significantly rearwards though, certainly nothing like a high-pivot bike such as a BB7. The difference in terms of bump absorption between that and a typical low-pivot bike (eg Turner) based purely on axle path tangency is not going to be big at all.The Sunday has a rearward axle path through mid travel. The big gain as you alluded to is the lessening of compression damping that the dw-link allows. This is a HUGE advantage. Try a shock from another non dw-link bike on the Sunday (or the 5th elements that came with the first batch of 05 bikes) and you will see the difference pretty quickly. The Sunday's dw-link uses/ can use 1/3 the low speed compression damping of a normal bike, and still accelerate without wild and uncontrolled suspension movement. This allows the suspension tuner to use the low speed to tune chassis response to corner entry and exit as opposed to trying to contol acceleration reaction.
Of course, if the rider has no will to understand how to set up the bike, or doesn't have the money or time to do what it takes to get the correct spring rates under him then its all for naught. The advantage goes away. In the hands of an enthusiastic rider who understands how to set up his or her equipment the bike can be a true weapon and a real advantage at the edge of traction. If a rider doesn't know or care to try to tune the suspension, or isn't riding at the linits of traction, the advantages become more blurry.
Dave
My sunday is pretty plush compared to the v-10's I've ridden, and they were set up for riders 20+ lbs lighter than me. And if you watched me ride, you'd probably say I use it like a plow bike, too. How else could I ding my rims up so many freaking times?Nah they were pretty specific about what they meant. Lower BBs are easier to plow through stuff anyway, who rides over 10" high bumps? Regardless, if the bike is as supple as Dave says it is, then it should be a pretty good plow bike - I think something is being lost in translation here (like I was saying with cornering traction vs rider comfort/harshness).
Thats a bold statement if I ever saw oneMy sunday is pretty plush compared to the v-10's I've ridden, and they were set up for riders 20+ lbs lighter than me.
That makes no sense. 4" of sag = no small bump absorbtion?i've ridden some of the same bikes. honestly with the spring rate you have to run on the v10 it totally defeats small bump absorbtion
maybe i said that incorrectly, small bump absorption will not be as good as a lower leverage bike becuase more pressure is needed to move the suspension. if you look at the numbers i posted there is a 20% difference between lbs/inch for a sunday and a v10. i consider that a very large difference.That makes no sense. 4" of sag = no small bump absorbtion?
Amount of sag is not a major factor here. The insanely high 3.64:1 leverage ratio of the V10 is however.That makes no sense. 4" of sag = no small bump absorbtion?
My DHR has 7.8inchs of rear travel........... i feel so inadequateNothing like my shockster equiped hardtail but certainly more plow bike than my turner. And it's got eight and a half!!! inches of travel.
That's because it does. After riding a V10 in the real world, as opposed to the internet, I'm willing to back it up too. That bike comforms with the ground and holds a line very well.I see. My bad. I guess I've always just assummed that the V10 stuck to the ground and therefore absorbed bumps well.
Now thats American Engineering! I'd love to see a camo-ano Shockster for late 1998, I mean late 2007...I consider sundays a plow bike for sure.
Nothing like my shockster equiped hardtail but certainly more plow bike than my turner. And it's got eight and a half!!! inches of travel.
Yea i'm curious to that one as well. from what i've seen with bike checker. Sorry for re railing this thread...The Sunday's axle path is not significantly rearwards though, certainly nothing like a high-pivot bike such as a BB7. The difference in terms of bump absorption between that and a typical low-pivot bike (eg Turner) based purely on axle path tangency is not going to be big at all.
Looks like it. Doesn't even have the right amount of travel for the R9, so I would be suspect of a lot of the numbers that thing generates (more suspect than I am of numbers in general, which is very)Your graphs are not correct for the Sunday. Without actually measuring the bike and inputting the numbers by hand it is going to be almost impossible to use that program. For starters, the bike has 205mm of travel, where this graph shows 200.
Archives, plenty of info on this, discussed MANY times.
Dave