[bullcrew]

He applied already and they are between travel and it changes wheel path as well..bottom hole requires no idler so it goes off to another hole to get bolted down

Middle hole it goes back on and uses CBF and I track, then top hole mimicks like a Jedi wheel path....

He's been running it before lapierre by well over a year or 2....
I think it's a great idea, I like the idea of having one bike that does well in other areas . Ride with wife and keep it on bottom hole and pedal ..don't think I'd use middle im all about "I paid for it, I want it!" So it would be too hole ...

 

[Electric_City]

2 pivot locations, 4mm difference in travel.

the vampire can be run with 165, 190, or 220 mm of travel in each of its 3 pivot locations.

This reminds me of my Giant F-pos. It had 3 adjustments in the back 4,5 and 6" of travel. Though I didn't waste my time reading about the Vampire, it seems as impractical unless if the shock has some sort of stroke adjustment. With the F-pos, when you adjusted the travel the stroke lenght stayed the same increasing the leverage. You either had a 4" bike with some sag and the rest of the stroke was firm compression. Or 6" with 3" of sag and firm compression. I know 2 different generations/tech/qualities, but there's definitely some sacrifices to the quality of that suspension. Right? Anyone have experience with a modern travel adjustable bike?

 

[slimshady]

This reminds me of my Giant F-pos. It had 3 adjustments in the back 4,5 and 6" of travel. Though I didn't waste my time reading about the Vampire, it seems as impractical unless if the shock has some sort of stroke adjustment. With the F-pos, when you adjusted the travel the stroke lenght stayed the same increasing the leverage. You either had a 4" bike with some sag and the rest of the stroke was firm compression. Or 6" with 3" of sag and firm compression. I know 2 different generations/tech/qualities, but there's definitely some sacrifices to the quality of that suspension. Right? Anyone have experience with a modern travel adjustable bike?

Well, Canyon's ShapeShifter worked pretty well, in terms of making a long travel bike pedalable. It changed the leverage ratio and straightened both the HT and ST angles.

 

[jstuhlman]

This reminds me of my Giant F-pos. It had 3 adjustments in the back 4,5 and 6" of travel. Though I didn't waste my time reading about the Vampire, it seems as impractical unless if the shock has some sort of stroke adjustment. With the F-pos, when you adjusted the travel the stroke lenght stayed the same increasing the leverage. You either had a 4" bike with some sag and the rest of the stroke was firm compression. Or 6" with 3" of sag and firm compression. I know 2 different generations/tech/qualities, but there's definitely some sacrifices to the quality of that suspension. Right? Anyone have experience with a modern travel adjustable bike?

not modern, but i liked the combo of two shock positions and the adjustable g3 dropouts on my old intense uzzi and did occasionally change the settings depending on where i was riding.

 

[mykel]

Rocky also had an adjustable travel bike with 3 option. ETSX from back in mid 00's

No idea on how the kinematics changed.

 

[Jozz]

Had a Carbine that had ajustable travel. 140-150mm. Ran it with the air shock at 140 and I was using an Elka coil for 150. Also had a Lyrik coil U-Turn that went from 140 to 160 (or was it 130-150?) Anyway, sub 30lbs bike that was a hoot back then. Until I destroyed it of course, cough* cough* Intense

 

[slimshady]

Also had a Lyrik coil U-Turn that went from 140 to 160 (or was it 130-150?)

Old guy is old, I had a Psylo U-Turn that went from 100 to 130 (IIRC) BY ITSELF. Tell me about AI assisted suspension!

 

[Jozz]

Old guy is old, I had a Psylo U-Turn that went from 100 to 130 (IIRC) BY ITSELF. Tell me about AI assisted suspension!

That was air I gather ?

 

[slimshady]

That was air I gather ?

U-Turn Coil IIRC. Manitous from that age also suffered from the same stochastic travel issues.

 

[toodles]

Also had a Lyrik coil U-Turn that went from 140 to 160 (or was it 130-150?)

I've got one of those on my pub bike. I think mine is 110-160mm or something. I'll check. Its 26" and straight steerer haha - I'm stuffed finding a replacement if I ever need one.

 

[Jozz]

I've got one of those on my pub bike. I think mine is 110-160mm or something. I'll check. Its 26" and straight steerer haha - I'm stuffed finding a replacement if I ever need one.

I think that was it. Didn't remember they had such a range.

 

[Jm_]

I think that was it. Didn't remember they had such a range.

Because 26”ers with no AS lifting their front wheel like the space shuttle taking off at the slightest climb grade. Shit was real once you went past 4” of travel.

 

[dump]

Because 26”ers with no AS lifting their front wheel like the space shuttle taking off at the slightest climb grade. Shit was real once you went past 4” of travel.

I still have a sektor coil, 120-150mm uturn, straight 1 1/8th. Solid, simple fork.

 

[FlipSide]

I still have a Revelation UTurn Coil 426 from 2008 in the parts bin. I believe it was adjustable between 85 and 125 (130?)mm. Apart for the QR dropouts, that was quite a good fork. The UTurn system has always worked perfectly well.

 

[Westy]

I still have a Revelation UTurn Coil 426 from 2008 in the parts bin. I believe it was adjustable between 85 and 125 (130?)mm. Apart for the QR dropouts, that was quite a good fork. The UTurn system has always worked perfectly well.

I kind of miss my old TALAS.

Modern long travel forks work better over a larger range of conditions but it was really nice to be able to quickly adjust geometry for different trails.

 

[slimshady]

I kind of miss my old TALAS.

Modern long travel forks work better over a larger range of conditions but it was really nice to be able to quickly adjust geometry for different trails.

Get ready for TALAIAS (Travel Adjustable, Linear AI-Assisted System)

 

[canadmos]

It might be finally happening

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[toodles]

It might be finally happening

Argotal Enduro 29x2.4" SuperSoft Folding Tire

Features - Continental Argotal Enduro 29x2.40" SuperSoft folding tire Open tread design for perfect interaction on loose surfaces Good self-cleaning in damp and wet conditions Made by hand for you Product features...

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ermagherd

 

[Andeh]

Already taken down.

 

[Gary]

Oh goody... MOAR to moan about..

 

[Electric_City]

I kind of miss my old TALAS.

Modern long travel forks work better over a larger range of conditions but it was really nice to be able to quickly adjust geometry for different trails.

The Talas nailed it as where the u-turn sucked.
The Talas would adjust the travel, but keep the (relative) sag and feel consistent.

The u-turn on my Psylo was shit.
At 3" you had 1" of sag and 2" of rock hard suspension. At 5" it gave you 3" of sag and 2" of rock hard suspension.

 

[Jozz]

The Talas nailed it as where the u-turn sucked.
The Talas would adjust the travel, but keep the (relative) sag and feel consistent.

The u-turn on my Psylo was shit.
At 3" you had 1" of sag and 2" of rock hard suspension. At 5" it gave you 3" of sag and 2" of rock hard suspension.

I had a completely different experience with my Lyrik coil. 140 was indeed a tad stiffer, which was perfect for trailbike duty. And crazy plush at 160 when I was running the rear coil. Never cranked it down into the extreme.

 

[Gary]

Lyrik coil was later though.
The pike u turn coils got it right.
Psylo was basically a judy with longer stanchions and whatever shit was lying around for internals.

Cool name tho... If you played Halo

 

[Jozz]

Lyrik coil was later though.
The pike u turn coils got it right.

you've just made me realize that I also had the Pike UT on my SS Chameleon.

 

[roflbox]

It might be finally happening

Argotal Enduro 29x2.4" SuperSoft Folding Tire

Features - Continental Argotal Enduro 29x2.40" SuperSoft folding tire Open tread design for perfect interaction on loose surfaces Good self-cleaning in damp and wet conditions Made by hand for you Product features...

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what am I missing? a 29r tire?

 

[Jozz]

what am I missing? a 29r tire?

Enduro casing in super soft.

 

[Gary]

you've just made me realize that I also had the Pike UT on my SS Chameleon.

Had. And broke tons of em
They were a good fork for their time tho.

 

[toodles]

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/atherton-s200-now-available-full-details-and-pricing.html

 

[Happymtb.fr]

They would definitely sell a lot more without brexit...

 

[HardtailHack]

You could get a nice table to go with it-

 

[slimshady]

There's a guy in Vital saying they have not enough of a big market to keep the additive, substractive and gearbox versions of the DH bike.


DUDE, THEY ARE PRINTING/MACHINING EACH BIKE ON ORDER, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS STOCK!!!!

 

[Gary]

They would definitely sell a lot more without brexit...

To the very people dumbass Brexit voters hate?

 

[jonKranked]

There's a guy in Vital saying they have not enough of a big market to keep the additive, substractive and gearbox versions of the DH bike.


DUDE, THEY ARE PRINTING/MACHINING EACH BIKE ON ORDER, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS STOCK!!!!

Those were my thoughts as well. Bikes are made to order, and it's a company founded by downhillers. What else would one expect?

 

[Happymtb.fr]

To the very people dumbass Brexit voters hate?

You mean those frightened elderly people? They are not much into downhill, are they?

I was thinking about people outside UK, for example the good people living within the EU. After import fee and VAT the price goes upp by roughly 25% for them

 

[Gary]

Sadly. Not all are elderly. Or frightened. Just cunts!

The tax thing is fucked. But works both ways. Ie. We're double fucked.

Queue the smug Swiss dwelling German

 

[Happymtb.fr]

It is sad indeed!

 

[Gary]

Yes. Quite sad. But he can't help it.

 

[Mo(n)arch]

 

[sethimus]

You mean those frightened elderly people? They are not much into downhill, are they?

I was thinking about people outside UK, for example the good people living within the EU. After import fee and VAT the price goes upp by roughly 25% for them

8.1% vat and some change for dhl/fedex. switzerland

 

[Gary]