like this...Full Trucker is involved in a Beetle-Baja project. Sounds like it'll be a lot of fun.
like this...Full Trucker is involved in a Beetle-Baja project. Sounds like it'll be a lot of fun.
No - I think he and his mates are going in the stock class...like this...
My oldest son who is 3½ passed one of the original beetles on the street the other day and said dad look its an old beetle. I was very proud and he was happy to see a real one.i'd rather build a beetle.
there is no "rear section" on the Raptor. its all one piece like in most trucksLooking at the damage, I would much rather have the rear section replaced. The frame is a bolt-on assembly, so it would be a lot more sensible.
see the bumpstop on the frame just above where the leaf springs meet the axle assembly. Look on the passenger side of the frame. You can see the section that is cut out so you can access the mounting bolt for the bump stop. Not only is that section cut out, the entire area is significantly smaller than the rest of the frame. I'd be all up in that area with a mig and a ****load of 6 gauge steelthere is no "rear section" on the Raptor. its all one piece like in most trucks
I've actually never even seen an inverted floating rear leaf spring shackle like that... but then again, my newest vehicle with leaf springs is a 2000 4runner.I still can't wrap my head around a $40K+ performance vehicle with an h-frame and leaf springs.
Yeah lol at the ford haters. The 351 Windsor in my truck is probably one of the most reliable engines ever made.My first ford is rapidly approaching 200k.
Look closer that's 1950s tech albeit highly refined.I've actually never even seen an inverted floating rear leaf spring shackle like that... but then again, my newest vehicle with leaf springs is a 2000 4runner.
lol, go look at damn near any chevy truck starting in say 1973, they have the exact same set up.I've actually never even seen an inverted floating rear leaf spring shackle like that... but then again, my newest vehicle with leaf springs is a 2000 4runner.
That your son did not immediately yell "Punchbug!" and knock the Euro out of you is sad!My oldest son who is 3½ passed one of the original beetles on the street the other day and said dad look its an old beetle. I was very proud and he was happy to see a real one.
That explains it then... I've never and will never own a chevy.lol, go look at damn near any chevy truck starting in say 1973, they have the exact same set up.
I'll have to look under my f350 tonight, I think it also has the same set up. that is nothing new
you know, "slugbug" rhymes way better. just sayin...That your son did not immediately yell "Punchbug!" and knock the Euro out of you is sad!
that is a pretty stupid design, especially how it tapers right there too. i can see how large hits could bend it when it contacts the axle.see the bumpstop on the frame just above where the leaf springs meet the axle assembly. Look on the passenger side of the frame. You can see the section that is cut out so you can access the mounting bolt for the bump stop. Not only is that section cut out, the entire area is significantly smaller than the rest of the frame. I'd be all up in that area with a mig and a ****load of 6 gauge steel
it wouldnt have been any stronger if they used the same mounting technique but it would prevent harsh bottom outs on the frame/axle. im sure space was a issue considering how much longer a hydraulic bottom out isAs for the raptor frame- they shoulda just gone with some fox airbumps bolted to the frame and could have kept it decently strong.
racing it in the Baja is pretty good "field testing" in my book.they pushed it out a little too fast for small run productions with no proper field testing. now it is biting them in the butt.
They wouldn't have needed the same mounting technique with external cans. Just weld a bracket to the inside of the frame, no need to weaken it with random holes.that is a pretty stupid design, especially how it tapers right there too. i can see how large hits could bend it when it contacts the axle.
it wouldnt have been any stronger if they used the same mounting technique but it would prevent harsh bottom outs on the frame/axle. im sure space was a issue considering how much longer a hydraulic bottom out is
I know Ford's QA requirements are super gnarly compared to most desert racing frame builders, but I gotta agree with gonefirefightin. A couple romps around a MDR track with their foot buried deep should have exposed this problem real quick.racing it in the Baja is pretty good "field testing" in my book.
the only thing this thing shares with the F150 is a somewhat similar body. the frame and suspension are entirely new for this vehicle. i dont think a company like Ford would release a bad product in today's market
its was pretty much a stock truck besides for engine mapping and obvious safety partsBet whatever vehicle they entered in whatever Baja race(s)? they ran wasn't completely stock.
Prepared for racing in long distance off-road endurance events, the Ford F-150 SVT Raptor R uses stock components of F-150 SVT Raptor, including the transmission, brakes and axles. The frame - the part of the truck that will take the most stress - is the same proven fully boxed frame that delivers class-leading towing and hauling in the all-new 2009 Ford F-150 that went on sale in October. The Raptor race truck is powered by a specially-calibrated version of the available 6.2-liter V-8 engine, making 500-horsepower
I've actually never even seen an inverted floating rear leaf spring shackle like that... but then again, my newest vehicle with leaf springs is a 2000 4runner.
yup, my f350 has the same leaf spring design, model year 2000.lol, go look at damn near any chevy truck starting in say 1973, they have the exact same set up.
I'll have to look under my f350 tonight, I think it also has the same set up. that is nothing new
Nope, just never owned a chevy. Only fords I owned were my 1973 mercury capri, a 1998 contour, and my wife's 2009 Focus. Never owned a mopar either. Mostly toyota, nissan, and honda. None of which ever had the rear shackle in that position.yup, my f350 has the same leaf spring design, model year 2000.
Mr Jones, have you been living under a rock?
its was pretty much a stock truck besides for engine mapping and obvious safety parts
Strength.I like how American car manufacturers seem to avoid independent rear suspension like the plague.
yes it is.isn't a deaver spring a leaf spring? cause I'm pretty sure deavers are what 90% of amateur desert runners run. maybe wrong, who cares it's the internet though.
expedition, explorer, escape, all independant rear suspension SUV's.I like how American car manufacturers seem to avoid independent rear suspension like the plague.
How much would it cost to merely build to a Raptor level, instead of to the rather extreme race-ready level that you're describing?For a factory pre-runner the raptor is a pretty solid deal, they should warranty the frames and make a modification to prevent it, because it seems to happen to easily, but overall it's a pretty solid platform.
Yeah, you will end up with a better truck if you build it from scratch, but you'll spend a ton of money doing it also.
Well, my brother is running the fox shocks off a raptor on his jeep cherokee for TREC racing, I can't recall what he paid for them, but suffice it to say they are not cheap.How much would it cost to merely build to a Raptor level, instead of to the rather extreme race-ready level that you're describing?