Cave Dweller said:Im a bit confused. The chain guide mounts to the swingarm and not the main frame? Is that going to work correctly?
I see Sully already talked about it but the ability for the chainguide to track the rear wheel through the travel can only be good. I always thought the angle the chainguide was forced to deal with on a more common frame mount systems seems like there is more wear/tear/stress put on it.Cave Dweller said:Im a bit confused. The chain guide mounts to the swingarm and not the main frame? Is that going to work correctly?
John Sullivan` said:Hey monkeys, here are some renderings showing what the production frame will be.
The first shows a non-drive side view of the rear as well as a good view of the rear mech hanger.
The second is an exploded view of the driveside droplink and hardware.
The third shows the underside of the CS so you can view the tri-stepped dropout thats designed to address the mech jockey and chain clearance at the dropout that increases b-tension adjustment for improved jockey/cog chainlink distance.
This greatly improved the shifting over prior lawwills.
John Sullivan` said:What I've personally done to my own rig is no different that what most riders do that live in areas (seattle, wa) that see constant rain, make a fender with an old innertube stretched between both swingarms, over the shock.
Kelly the mech hanger IS attached to the link and is replaceable, sweet, now put a deposit on one!!!John Sullivan` said:You are correct, the swingarm does offer both styles of ISCG. If the 05 doesn't take we'll remove it from the following model year. But not knowing for sure what the market will do regarding the ISCG's it made sense to offer both for at least this first batch of frames.
Yes the rear mech is attached to the rear droplink, and it's a replaceable hanger!
And Yes once more to the Hopey, we will be offering direct mounting for 06.
That mount has been somewhat of a trademark with our frames since we took ownership of the company in 2002.
I am a fan for sure and everyone else should be also. Why wouldn't you want something that allows you to go faster and maintain control?? And the direct mount eliminates any install issues of the past.
You can't base the Hopey performance from a parking lot test. You have to try it in real life, but granted it may not be for everyone but thats why its an easy install with our frames.
As I am a firm believer in the Hopey system it only made sense to include that feature in our development of frames for the company.
And thanks for the props as well, we do try!
Shifting is not an issue...in my few short pedals on it, I bounced (and when I bounce, I BOUNCE!!) while shifting up and down....not a skip!!...even with the proto der. hanger....since it'll be on the drop link for the production model, it'll be even better!! Werd!!kellybike said:That suspension design is amazing, the graphics are alright on the main frame, and Great on the swing arm.
The only trouble that I foresee is with shifting. The distance between the rear der. hanger and the rear axle is too great. As with the YETI's and Schwinn's, if the der, hanger was closer to the axle it would shift and stay in gear much better.
Other than that,... I Want...
Profile was a manufacturer of bikes that made a concentric pivot lawill design.John Sullivan` said:The RL9 is a concentric based lawwill design that was never embraced by other mfg's of that period with the exception of the Gary Fisher/Lawwill RS1 XC design back in the late 80's early 90's. It was a shoe in so to speak for us to develop it this way as Mert had concieved his design as an concentric and Rotec has been concentric based from the begining.
ViciousDHer said:So has anyone ever ridden one of these, besides the proto ? Or were they ever put in production