man, why didn't sam go to any of the earlier SX races... oh yah, he lives in Australia.
k... i'm done w/ this.
k... i'm done w/ this.
Well, that's a given.Ok, give me a .025 credit on coolness, still not as cool.
But slowbe one kenobe has us both beat with his sniper forum-ing.
And rightfully so. That's what happens when you have a "national series" with no UCI points....& yet he will be attending & riding... whereas there are companies & people boycotting the NORBAs.
Don't hate, congradulate.Ok, give me a .025 credit on coolness, still not as cool.
But slowbe one kenobe has us both beat with his sniper forum-ing.
Good call. The Force is strong with this one.And rightfully so. That's what happens when you have a "national series" with no UCI points.
Ya, I know a rider who does not race norbas, but he is not going to the race to hang out-that makes no sense to me (go to a race but hangout while you are perfectly able to race) but whatever, to each his own....& yet he will be attending & riding... whereas there are companies & people boycotting the NORBAs.
... so what class are you racing?
Whoa...whoa...whoa...you DON'T have a problem with people watching bicycle racing...dude, it's off to Gitmo with you!!*snip*... I will be watching...you have a problem with people who watch bicycle racing? do you have to race to be 'cool'?
for someone who is arguing against Hill just watching, you're not really helping your case...Ya, I know a rider who does not race norbas, but he is not going to the race to hang out-that makes no sense to me (go to a race but hangout while you are perfectly able to race) but whatever, to each his own.
What class am I racing? are you for real? I think you know I will not be racing, I will be watching...you have a problem with people who watch bicycle racing? do you have to race to be 'cool'?
While I don't particularly care either way, I think there is a distinction to be made between a skinny bald guy and the defending world champion.for someone who is arguing against Hill just watching, you're not really helping your case...
world champion even going to the race is good in itself.While I don't particularly care either way, I think there is a distinction to be made between a skinny bald guy and the defending world champion.
and therein lies the problem. Fans pay his way because they buy the products he runs. And last time I checked the country buying the bulk of the products he's hawking is USA.world champion even going to the race is good in itself.
take what you can get.
I know I would be happy to see just see Hill there, and maybe even getting the chance to try and keep up with him for a run during practice.and therein lies the problem. Fans pay his way because they buy the products he runs. And last time I checked the country buying the bulk of the products he's hawking is USA.
Basicly choosing to not race in the country that supports you the most as a racer...crap. NICO paid his own way to Deer Valley just to be racing and could have been in France being pampered and revered.
He even only had 1 bike, his DH, and raced in the Pro Dual Slalom to the round of 8 and barely got bumped by Lopes.
Monster and Iron Horse having him in this country, bringing him to a race and them letting him go be amongst the elite at a totally unrelated event?
Dylan, if he was one of your Utopia riders, you think you're gonna sell more goggles with Hill hanging out and then jetting to a motocross event where he'll be a nobody...is really the stand-up thing to do?
I say it's a borderline insults to fans. Nobody cares how fast a guy practices...until he puts up his race time.
Well, that'd be one good reason I don't own an RV.and you don't drive
Hey! what do you have against skinny bald guys?While I don't particularly care either way, I think there is a distinction to be made between a skinny bald guy and the defending world champion.
You're a pudgy bald guy, no worries.Hey! what do you have against skinny bald guys?
bald-ING...there's a DIFFERENCE!You're a pudgy bald guy, no worries.
It's OK. You haven't developed Adult American Sense of Entitlement Syndrome yet. Maybe you'll be immune to it. God love ya....I know I would be happy to see just see Hill there, and maybe even getting the chance to try and keep up with him for a run during practice.
I guess still being a grom and not getting too caught up in all this **** has its benefits.
Sam Hill damages ear drums as he breaks the sound barrier? Would make a good headline.If Sam was to race Fontucky and something was god-forbid to go wrong.
-ska todd
I'm not patting NORBA on the back. I am on the East Coast and not coming. I am a fan of racing. I am always talking out of my ass...refer to my avatar.I find all of the armchair team management here quite funny. Just a year or so ago we were all collectively heckling TBB/"Norba" about the inclusion of Fontana as an NMBS and that the course wasn't up to snuff. Now a bunch of guys are complaining because the World Champion is not racing this same event to attend a function at the request of the primary team sponsor, who has quite a vested interest in said function. To top it off, some of the folks piping up so adamantly aren't even attending the Fontana event!
Monster/Iron Horse as a team is not supporting the 2007 NMBS series for a myriad of reasons, as are a few other teams and vendors. However, Iron Horse the company still quite obviously supports racing in the US with top American pro riders such as Duncan Riffle and events such as the US Open. Accusing Sam Hill, Iron Horse, or Monster of somehow turning it's back on US racing with Sam not competing this event is just flat out wrong.
If Sam was to race Fontucky and something was god-forbid to go wrong, all of the SAME armchair guys would be saying how much of a mistake it was for him to compete in an event with no points, status, etc the week preceding a World Cup in the first place!
Bottom line as always; think before you post.
-ska todd
Sam Hill damages ear drums as he breaks the sound barrier? Would make a good headline.
I do not know who said IH does not support racing, but that is crazy talk, we all know they do, so not even a discussion.IH not uspporting grass roots racing in the US? . . . what a bunch of nonesense.
i'd be hard pressed to name a company who is more actively involved in the domestic race scene, and you guys are crying foul because Sam Hill won't be racing so he can attend a huge money making event for his team's primary outside sponsor, at their request?
you're kidding yourselves if you think Sam's presence at Fontana is going to bring in spectators. If you're Monster why send your rider to a poorly promoted, little regarded, and slowy declining race series on a shabby course at a crappy venue when you can have an audience of several 10's of thousand paying fans a few hours away?
where do all the lounge chair TM's think Monster gets the money to support a world cup team and give out Sponsorhouse deals to all the groms . . . . it certainly isn't from MTB marketing
nah its just that Propagandhi rocksps ska sucks! The bands are only in it for the bucks! And if you don't believe me you're a schmuck! But the trend will die out with any luck!
Please save this quote so that when you have no place left to race you can look back and answer the question of why DH racing disappeared. Seriously, I lurk on this site all of the time and I cannot believe how many times I hear people talk about DH's current state of unsupported cashless races only to read people talk about remaining venues like this. If I were a big money corporation and was researching the possibility of sponsoring a sport like DH and came across a site like this, I would stay the hell away.. If you're Monster why send your rider to a poorly promoted, little regarded, and slowy declining race series on a shabby course at a crappy venue when you can have an audience of several 10's of thousand paying fans a few hours away?
Maybe the promoters/federations should do a better job, then the sponsors would come back as racers would actually want to attend races in the USA? You know, treat the racers like your customers, not your indentured servants.Please save this quote so that when you have no place left to race you can look back and answer the question of why DH racing disappeared. Seriously, I lurk on this site all of the time and I cannot believe how many times I hear people talk about DH's current state of unsupported cashless races only to read people talk about remaining venues like this. If I were a big money corporation and was researching the possibility of sponsoring a sport like DH and came across a site like this, I would stay the hell away.
Out of this 10 of thousands fans how many know who Sam Hill is? I'ld be willing to bet no more than will be spectating at Fontana. I am quite aware that Ironhorse supports racing, but the decision does not make sense. I am not suggesting that he should be flown in to such a venue but he is going to allready be there.
I find all of the armchair team management here quite funny. Just a year or so ago we were all collectively heckling TBB/"Norba" about the inclusion of Fontana as an NMBS and that the course wasn't up to snuff. Now a bunch of guys are complaining because the World Champion is not racing this same event to attend a function at the request of the primary team sponsor, who has quite a vested interest in said function. To top it off, some of the folks piping up so adamantly aren't even attending the Fontana event!
Monster/Iron Horse as a team is not supporting the 2007 NMBS series for a myriad of reasons, as are a few other teams and vendors. However, Iron Horse the company still quite obviously supports racing in the US with top American pro riders such as Duncan Riffle and events such as the US Open. Accusing Sam Hill, Iron Horse, or Monster of somehow turning it's back on US racing with Sam not competing this event is just flat out wrong.
If Sam was to race Fontucky and something was god-forbid to go wrong, all of the SAME armchair guys would be saying how much of a mistake it was for him to compete in an event with no points, status, etc the week preceding a World Cup in the first place!
Bottom line as always; think before you post.
-ska todd
actually, racing is thriving outside of NORBA/NMBS. I've only been married for, ummm, about 2 weeks and I'm about to get divorced (ok, not really) since I'll be spending the entire months of May and June racing events that are within a 3.5-4h drive. hell, there are so many races there's conflicts as to which ones to support. these range from grassroots one-time races like Reading, to big mtn series put on by Diablo and Mt Snow. then there's the fact that there's a gravity east series if you want to link a bunch of the east coast races together. so it seems like DH racing is doing quite well aside from NMBS...On that note, let's be clear, DH racing is THRIVING outside of the USA. It isn't the rest of the world's fault the US' governing body sucks.
Ya, shoulda been more clear. I mean big racing, grassroots level racing is exploding, especially in the north east. The fact that the national series has no uci points and no real prize money and they blew their shot at a World Cup, says a lot.actually, racing is thriving outside of NORBA/NMBS. I've only been married for, ummm, about 2 weeks and I'm about to get divorced (ok, not really) since I'll be spending the entire months of May and June racing events that are within a 3.5-4h drive. hell, there are so many races there's conflicts as to which ones to support. these range from grassroots one-time races like Reading, to big mtn series put on by Diablo and Mt Snow. then there's the fact that there's a gravity east series if you want to link a bunch of the east coast races together. so it seems like DH racing is doing quite well aside from NMBS...
if you were a big money corporation you'd know better than to base your business decisions on the oft uninformed blatherings of a selectPlease save this quote so that when you have no place left to race you can look back and answer the question of why DH racing disappeared. Seriously, I lurk on this site all of the time and I cannot believe how many times I hear people talk about DH's current state of unsupported cashless races only to read people talk about remaining venues like this. If I were a big money
corporation and was researching the possibility of sponsoring a sport like DH and came across a site like this, I would stay the hell away.
Move up here where we have power and indoor plumbing, and you'll be all set!Let it be known that if you live anywhere in the southern half of the United States right now, either coast...Downhill racing is dead.
That series needs to be called the Northeast Coast Gravity Series.