I don't know who payed for the freecaster feed all i know is I love it.Specialized is a sponsor of the Freecaster UCI live feeds. I have wondered if Specialized was the financial backer allowing Freecaster to make a deal with WCSN to broadcast in the US.
Perhaps a DW-link Specialized is in the works (DW-FSR-ICT combo w/ fries)!i wonder if specialized will now develop a dh bike (if indeed this news is true)...
Please refer back to my first post in this thread......but for those who say that he's going to get thrown on a straight demo 8 or what not, should probably read this article. For those who aren't in touch with the roadie side of our industry Tom Boonen was for a while the #1 ranked UCI rider. His team got sponsored by Spec, and he told them their bikes sucked. They created a few prototypes and then re-tooled a whole mold for his frames. Think how much that must have cost. Here's the article:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2007/probikes/?id=tom_boonen_specialized_tarmacsl2
The article is only partially correct, there was a huge problem with stiffness and handling. But they were willing to do whatever it takes to make it right and for that, they were rewarded with a lot of wins.
You must have some emotional friends. I didn't even know there was a pill to swallow.such a tuff pill to swallow for some...
Specialized jumped on board to be the title sponsor for our world championship coverage. This enabled us to bring an entire team etc. They really helped us out and we are incredibly grateful for their support.I don't know who payed for the freecaster feed all i know is I love it.
i'm quoting my own post, hehehe.http://www.rvcns.com/news/1-news/98-sam-hill-2009
um, is this for real? i hadn't heard anything, then i ran into this site. sorry if this is old news. couldn't dig up anything on it.
Specialized sent some goons.i've gone back to the site and the page is nowhere to be found. perhaps it was a prank by the administrator...
Yep. I'll see you tomorrow at 5:30. Braaaaappt.Go ride your bike!
Put the key board down and walk away.....
Its for the best....
I'm kind of indifferent to Sam Hill and what he does, but for those who say that he's going to get thrown on a straight demo 8 or what not, should probably read this article. For those who aren't in touch with the roadie side of our industry Tom Boonen was for a while the #1 ranked UCI rider. His team got sponsored by Spec, and he told them their bikes sucked. They created a few prototypes and then re-tooled a whole mold for his frames. Think how much that must have cost. Here's the article:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/2007/probikes/?id=tom_boonen_specialized_tarmacsl2
The article is only partially correct, there was a huge problem with stiffness and handling. But they were willing to do whatever it takes to make it right and for that, they were rewarded with a lot of wins.
Jeesh.Heh...
Interesting...
I need to call some people about this.
But in regards to the Demo 8 "not being designed for use as a DH race bike", this statement is true to a certain extent.
The 1st generation Demos (8 & 9) where mainly designed with freeriding in mind - hence their suspension design. Being an owner of one of these bikes myself, I can say (as well as some of the old Cane Creek / Spesh guys) that these bikes COULD be set up for racing and handle DH courses pretty well. The thing was that the 1st gen rear end was geared toward absorbing big hits and not really able to efficiently deal with the high-speed chatter type stuff you would encounter on a WC course. Square-edged hits also slowed the bike down a bit compared to other designs that were out there at the time.
When Brandon and the boys re-designed the Demo 8 in the 2nd iteration we currently see, the suspension was also re-designed to give a more compliant ride and takes the bike in a more DH-race oriented direction. The suspension design has more flexibility to it so it is still great for FR, but if you want to race pure DH with it - it will handle that too. The 3rd iteration of the Demo 8 should be a bike with even more DH-oriented geo and suspension design/refinements.
...and I pray they go with a 150mm x 12mm thru-axle system... please guys... or at least a 135mm x 12mm thru axle...
It's amazing what owning one can do to people's perception of a bike :huh:It's amazing what marketing and a few pics of Kyle Strait, Darren Berrecloth and Matt Hunter can do to people's perception of a bike.:huh:
I don't even own a demo anymore jackassIt's amazing what owning one can do to people's perception of a bike :huh:
not everyone likes the Demo, or specialized . . . or Michael Bolton. get over it.
Let me ask this:I don't even own a demo anymore jackass
Consider just for a moment, my words as written. Not a fanboy assessment of my own bike.
I might actually have a point. Or did you even read my post?
Not liking a bike is perfectly fine. Dismissing it as a 'category bike' when it exhibits almost every trait of something else that's not thrown into that category is something completely different.
For the most part yeah, of course (except for some of those wierdos like devinci bikes with 15"+ BB measurements).Let me ask this:
with a few exceptions, like the Judge, aren't most race bikes an issue of "relatively" minor geometry setups, like head angle or BB height, which can tweaked with replacement linkages, shock length, and fork height?
I mean if any bike is too heavy or leverage ratios are wack, that seems to require all new engineering. But if it is geometry setup, it seems to be in the realm of race tuning.
I still say he'll go on Trek next year.
Bets?
Here's one exception:It's just funny to see how people's opinions of what constitutes a 'good race bike' fall in line directly proportional to who's winning races on what model. It's a very real phenomenon.
Did you flip upside-down the linkage plates and set up the floating brake mount so it compresses the suspension when you use the rear brake?Hey! That's what I ride!!!
sorry to high jack the thread but what would flipping the linkages do to the bike? i thought about it a month or so ago to lower the bb and slacken the head angle on my stab but thought it might have some strength issues later on in life. and the calculations i did gave me a 12.5" bb height which i thought was a lil too low considering its a 9inch travel beast.Did you flip upside-down the linkage plates and set up the floating brake mount so it compresses the suspension when you use the rear brake?
Actually both principles apply on that one. One single rider can't undo the years of bourdon and watson new world disorder indoctrination.Here's one exception:
I don't remember Barel's reasoning for setting his bike this way. I was just pointing out that race setup for any rider could be totally off-the-wall, but in this case, I doubt many Stab riders duplicated the WC's geometry.sorry to high jack the thread but what would flipping the linkages do to the bike? i thought about it a month or so ago to lower the bb and slacken the head angle on my stab but thought it might have some strength issues later on in life. and the calculations i did gave me a 12.5" bb height which i thought was a lil too low considering its a 9inch travel beast.
get over it. there is no "right geometry" for a type of bike. Sam is likely the highest paid WC racer ever and will have a frame built to his specs. they will then slap a demo____(?) decal on it and there you have it - a specialized DH bike. If He wanted a 67 degree HA you'd all be calling 65 too slack.
No, I did not. But then again, I'm not WC caliber. Or French.Did you flip upside-down the linkage plates and set up the floating brake mount so it compresses the suspension when you use the rear brake?