A lot of people seem to feel the same way. But I ride a moto helmet and definitely think it is more protective, and definitely more comfortable than the bicycle helmets I've tried on.From what I've read DOT is overkill for most DH. My next helmet will be one that's ASTM 1952 certified (downhill).
I will second this. I've been riding a moto lid all season coming off a 661 mtb full face. I must say they are MUCH more confidence inspiring (not trying to say that mtb full faces aren't safe, i just feel more confident w/ a DOT helmet). Besides, when it comes to my noodle, I'd rather spend a little more and have a sweaty wet hair mop than brain damage. $300 for a moto lid is still more than 100x cheaper than brain surgery. Just my $.02A lot of people seem to feel the same way. But I ride a moto helmet and definitely think it is more protective, and definitely more comfortable than the bicycle helmets I've tried on.
Totally agree. The jaw is way to close to the riders face. In a decent crash your face would not have too much protection.Everyone I know who wears the new Bravo's looks like their chin is about to jump out of the helmet. It doesn't seem to sit right and the chin guard seems to face almost straight out as opposed to most others. .
o phew...i was WONDERING what you were gonna do.....switch, keep same helmet, keep helmet but paint it, etcI ll stick with my D2
My 06 661 Flight is matte black. 1 more point for moto helmets .why can't helmet makers make any matte black helmets?
Awesome, I can't wait to see the samples. Any update on when these will be available to purchase? Also, will the sizing be comparable to the Flight helmets?The Bravo helmets did have a chinbar that was too short for most people and some other problems. The new Evo helmet has addressed all of these problems. The samples look really good and there will be a matte black finish. I am hoping that I will have a final sample that I can take a picture of and post up on this discussion by the end of this month or early December.
Are the old D2 meeting the new ASTM standards or only the 08?jasons - any other '08 bike helmets meeting the new ASTM standard?
toby
When can we buy it?The Bravo helmets did have a chinbar that was too short for most people and some other problems. The new Evo helmet has addressed all of these problems. The samples look really good and there will be a matte black finish. I am hoping that I will have a final sample that I can take a picture of and post up on this discussion by the end of this month or early December.
This is not true. In order to get a helmet DOT approved it has to withstand a much harsher impact than those used in the ASTM standards for MTB helmets. I am not sure of the exact numbers, but this is pretty much the case. From what I remember when ASTM 1952 was implemented, it was to make a level of helmet stronger than the normal ASTM standard for bicycle helmets, but not as strong as DOT approved helmets.All a DOT helmet provides over ASTM 1952 certified (like my full face...) is just extra heat in my opinion.
A proper moto helmet provides far more protection than any of the DH helmets available. The specialized deviant isn't even really comparable to a helmet such as a 661 flight or a TLD SE.All a DOT helmet provides over ASTM 1952 certified (like my full face...) is just extra heat in my opinion.
Could be wrong, but I own a DOT helmet, and it doesnt even compare to my Specialized Deviant. Sure, the DOT has more pads and "feels" safer, but its hot, tough to see with, and hot. I'm very content with my Specialized.
*there's my little rant.*
Ditch the visor?I found a real pic of the helmet... pretty cool.
If you had an understanding of how they work you probably wouldn't have said that.... Sure, DOT helmets are cheaper, but they are rated for higher speeds, like riding on a street bike, going 80 mph, or riding a dirt bike going 60...then hitting a tree.I ride a Dot helmet they are way safer. I don't think it is overkill. If you go into a tree on a high speed section you will wish you had a real helmet. And My helmite is matte black.