http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016144477_longshoremen09m.html
Does this sort of thing really win sympathy?
Does this sort of thing really win sympathy?
ftfy.Wait until you find out that invading Canada is the centerpiece of Obama's health care plan.
When business does it, it's an amoral entity maximizing profit potential. When labor does it, it's terrorism.Mischeif is a justifiable tactic, let's not pretend that there is any difference between a planted stooge at work trying to derail the movement, an embedded agent provocateur inciting violence or the brothers destroying crap that belongs to the boss to harm his profits.
Do you view people that did that 100 years ago as hero's of the labor movement?http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2016144477_longshoremen09m.html
Does this sort of thing really win sympathy?
and those union guys think barry should stick to basketball.Union members clearly aren't as dumb as our President, who keeps trying to gain approval from people who think he should be serving the drinks.
Racist blue-collar white men in America? That must be a new phenomenon you're referring to.and those union guys think barry should stick to basketball.
Do you view people that did that 100 years ago as hero's of the labor movement?
Is the corporate leadership after-all not trying their damn hardest to bring things back to the way they were to increase profitability? Remember, 1$ an hour less to the guys at the bottom at a company with 1000 employees is more than $20,000,000 a year in the boards pocket.
Lets not also forget that said CEOs and CFOs also just saved a cool mil on the tax for that yacht they just bought.
You better bet people are going to be that pissed. Are they right? Maybe, do they have my sympathy, yes.
And too boot, that 40$ a week on to of those people's paycheck will do allot more in the economy, that the 5 mil, on top of the 50 mil, sitting in CEO Joe's bank account.
Unions and the GI bill created the middle class.Shhhh....grown-ups are talking
Oh shut your hole. You know nothing about nothing. You won't impress with your wikipedia articles.Prove me wrong
Excuse you, wikipedia articles? I've got 2 econ textbooks sitting under my desk right now. I would be quite surprised if you even new all the math involved with what the republicans allowed to happen.Oh shut your hole. You know nothing about nothing. You won't impress with your wikipedia articles.
Unions are for the weak.
Get yourself a job at Boeing for a few years, observe their tactics and then get back to me.
In the meantime, shhht.
That's cute. Know ANYTHING about current labour laws? Pretty sure they apply to non-union workers too.Excuse you, wikipedia articles? I've got 2 econ textbooks sitting under my desk right now. I would be quite surprised if you even new all the math involved with what the republicans allowed to happen.
Unions are for the weak? You are ignorant as all hell, I might be dumb, but WOW. Go read a history book fool,40 hour work weak and vacation pay mean anything to you
Working on my engineering degree right now (decided the econ/ poli sci one was a waste) so I may be there in 5 years.
In the mean time you know nothing about history or economics.
Your level or understanding of how said labor laws came into existence is poor at best.That's cute. Know ANYTHING about current labour laws? Pretty sure they apply to non-union workers too.
A man doesn't need a union
and engineering degrees are not that impressive.....you chose poorly
I guess reading is beneath you then?But the book says...
MMike hasn't worked for boeing in quite some time.but what do we know, compared to a Boeing engineer who's on RM for the whoel day except for the 12 h he sleeps...
mMike, you must be a hell of a man, to have cut this deal with Boeing, that allows you to celebrate your 10th anniversary being on RM incl. 16,494 posts....
Will be 10 years on Dec 20......(holy lord....)MMike hasn't worked for boeing in quite some time.
Fair enough.Unions are not a bad thing, but (like most things) they must be moderated.
Reminds me of something my biology major brother said: Successful parasites do not kill the host.
I agree with you generally about unions, but please explain to me why US CEOs are apparently worth 10x their Japanese counterparts. See Mulally vs., say, the compensation of Honda.So there sort of is a reason CEO's get high compensation. They are the ones providing a place for people to complain.
(And as I said, I realize there is a large number of bad bad corrupt people out there)
The CEO's union of course.I agree with you generally about unions, but please explain to me why US CEOs are apparently worth 10x their Japanese counterparts. See Mulally vs., say, the compensation of Honda.
Honestly I can't explain it. "free market" and whatnot.....I'm viewing more from within a single enterprise. (which perhaps is naive of me)I agree with you generally about unions, but please explain to me why US CEOs are apparently worth 10x their Japanese counterparts. See Mulally vs., say, the compensation of Honda.
I blame cronyism. Same people searching for candidates, setting board and CEO compensation, and eventually filling those positions...Honestly I can't explain it. "free market" and whatnot.....I'm viewing more from within a single enterprise. (which perhaps is naive of me)
So, you're OK with your pay being tied to the 'global mean'?I blame cronyism. Same people searching for candidates, setting board and CEO compensation, and eventually filling those positions...
If it were a truly free market then CEO salaries would regress to the global mean but instead they're skyrocketing. After all, if any employee in a company can be drawn from a global talent pool rather than an inbred collection of groupthink Harvard MBA grads it should be the CEO, right?
Medicine is a protected monopoly through the board certification/medical licensure process. It's hardly a free market. We already are open to any applicants who can meet the standards, in any case, and I'd venture that the proportion of immigrants who are physicians is much, much higher than the same within the group of, say, Fortune 500 CEOs.So, you're OK with your pay being tied to the 'global mean'? Seems fair to me, US doctors are some of the highest paid anywhere correct?
I won't defend CEO pay as I agree it's absurd but running/owning a business isn't comparable to simply being a minion/cog in the machine. At all.
I'll "ditto" this. When I started as a lowly liaison engineer, designing repairs to primary aicraft structure, I was shocked to learn that our shop guys as young as me were making close to 6 figures, roughly 3 times what I was making at the time. To what? Drill 3 holes and install a nutplate on a piece of sheetmetal per the drawing? These weren't even A&P mechanics...........And if they "stand there" long enough, they do in fact end up making more money than the engineer designing the wing they are assembling. Does that make sense?
Neither is our Little Rock shop, and for over 10 years have exceeded our Wichita "mothership's" saftey records.And furthermore, Bell Helicopter in Mirabel (where ALL of Bell's civilian machines have been made for over 20 years), IS NOT A UNION SHOP. And miraculously, they still have reasonable wages, a safe and clean work environment.....and Bell adheres to (and actually exceeds) legally mandated workplace standards. How can that be?