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jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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15,161
Portland, OR
This is a good looking vehicle, as long as I don't have to put it together as a kit car.

That's damn near perfect! Small, light, "sprint mode", sign me up!

The design is genius. Steal off the shelf parts from quality manufacturers, don't include the frunk or other silly options and keep it simple and clean.

Starting from <£80,000 GBP, that's also reasonable.
 
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stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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That's damn near perfect! Small, light, "sprint mode", sign me up!

The design is genius. Steal off the shelf parts from quality manufacturers, don't include the frunk or other silly options and keep it simple and clean.

Starting from <£80,000 GBP, that's also reasonable.
there is a defender 90.of south african pedigree with the bmw six cylinder in it for sale in SC....probably reliable....
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
20,124
10,682
AK
I kinda want a Panamera
I've always liked them, old and new style. IMO, it's like a 1930s car, turned super aggressive. The fact that it's absolutely huge in every dimension is what makes it what it is. I consider my Stinger a distant second in that way, since it's smaller...although it's bigger than a BMW 4 and Audi 5 sportback. I think the Panamera, Stinger and Audi 5 sportback sedan-hatches are all beautiful. The BMW and Mercedes are WTF. The utility is off the charts though with the hatch.
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
13,156
4,990
Copenhagen, Denmark
I would then rather go taycan sport turismo but maybe @Jm_ is looking for the V8 experience too. My friend just got the regular Taycan and it's a really nice car inside and loved the look out of the window where you can see the sculpture fenders.
 

Sandwich

Pig my fish!
Staff member
May 23, 2002
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I've always liked them, old and new style. IMO, it's like a 1930s car, turned super aggressive. The fact that it's absolutely huge in every dimension is what makes it what it is. I consider my Stinger a distant second in that way, since it's smaller...although it's bigger than a BMW 4 and Audi 5 sportback. I think the Panamera, Stinger and Audi 5 sportback sedan-hatches are all beautiful. The BMW and Mercedes are WTF. The utility is off the charts though with the hatch.
I like the stinger, but my experience with my genesis is changing my attitude toward getting another Hyundai/Genesis/Kia product despite their coolness. The porsche seems to combine that "keep it forever" vibe with actual german quality and a comfortable, large car.

You can get the older ones for reasonable prices now: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=654536331&clickType=myATCsavedcar 36k for a 2014 S with 30k miles...not bad when you consider what else you can get for the same price :( Kind of a fantasy, but not totally insane
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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the new landcruiser.....less landcruiser than a 4runner.

atleast ford got the 2 door bronco right.
 

dump

Turbo Monkey
Oct 12, 2001
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5,105
the new landcruiser.....less landcruiser than a 4runner.

atleast ford got the 2 door bronco right.
as a non-car person, what does a solid axle with trailing links and a panhard bar setup look like? My guess is this is not the most capable offroad setup around.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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22,025
Sleazattle
as a non-car person, what does a solid axle with trailing links and a panhard bar setup look like? My guess is this is not the most capable offroad setup around.
To a lot of people this is high tech, at least compared to leaf springs.
 

maxyedor

<b>TOOL PRO</b>
Oct 20, 2005
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In the bathroom, fighting a battle
I actually really like the new Cruiser. The price is way outta whack though, “mid 50s” probably means well over $60k by the time you add tax/title/lic. Plus who knows how much dealer mark up. At that point just sacrifice the retro looks get a GX and enjoy the much nicer interior
 

dump

Turbo Monkey
Oct 12, 2001
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To a lot of people this is high tech, at least compared to leaf springs.
I’m familiar with leaf springs. I’m guessing this is a similar idea with links and a shock/spring in place of leaf springs bolted to the axle?
Basically this setup?
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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as a non-car person, what does a solid axle with trailing links and a panhard bar setup look like? My guess is this is not the most capable offroad setup around.
flexibility....coil springs>leaf springs>ifs....