“I repeat myself when I’m under stress, I repeat myself….”
Toobless Tape Troubles.
- Thread starter mykel
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Did we then laugh at you for riding crank brothers rims?
We're in a thread about problems with rim tape. I'm explaining how I avoid using rim tape. You can't understand why I would do that?
Did I spend more time "blind lacing" wheels or did OP spend more time dealing with leaky rim tape?
How about when replacing a broken nipple? More time spent threading it in from the valve hole or replacing/patching rim tape?
Never owned a CB product. The only one I'll sell is cleats.
CB. Ugh. Remember the Joplin dropper post? I do. Complete rubbish. Last thing I've purchased from CB. And that was like 2008.
Anyways, back to rim tape. Something just jogged my memory. We used to use 'strapping tape', way back in the day. The rims were narrow back then, so it was the perfect width, it was strong, and it held. Could be worth a look. Probably cheaper than the name brand stuff (Stans, Schwalbe) and much thinner than duck/gorilla/gaffer tape. Yet still strong.
Here's a quick link:
www.uline.com
Anyways, back to rim tape. Something just jogged my memory. We used to use 'strapping tape', way back in the day. The rims were narrow back then, so it was the perfect width, it was strong, and it held. Could be worth a look. Probably cheaper than the name brand stuff (Stans, Schwalbe) and much thinner than duck/gorilla/gaffer tape. Yet still strong.
Here's a quick link:
3M 8934 Economy Strapping Tape - 1
Light duty. Bundles, reinforces and unitizes pallets. Sticks to corrugated, plastics and metal. Excellent abrasion, moisture and scuff resistance. Clear polypropylene backing reinforced with glass yarn filaments. Synthetic rubber adhesive. Use with 3M HB901 Tartan and 3M H-12 Tape Dispensers...
www.uline.com
I've tried it in a pinch. It worked well as rim tape back in the days of tubes because it's fibrous and doesn't extrude through valve holes, but the plastic tape holding the fibers together is pretty flimsy and gets chewed up/stops holding air very quickly.CB. Ugh. Remember the Joplin dropper post? I do. Complete rubbish. Last thing I've purchased from CB. And that was like 2008.
Anyways, back to rim tape. Something just jogged my memory. We used to use 'strapping tape', way back in the day. The rims were narrow back then, so it was the perfect width, it was strong, and it held. Could be worth a look. Probably cheaper than the name brand stuff (Stans, Schwalbe) and much thinner than duck/gorilla/gaffer tape. Yet still strong.
Here's a quick link:
3M 8934 Economy Strapping Tape - 1
Light duty. Bundles, reinforces and unitizes pallets. Sticks to corrugated, plastics and metal. Excellent abrasion, moisture and scuff resistance. Clear polypropylene backing reinforced with glass yarn filaments. Synthetic rubber adhesive. Use with 3M HB901 Tartan and 3M H-12 Tape Dispensers...
I'm blaming you both if Whisky tape is shite.
Wife needed a new rear tyre on her road bike. After removing the old one the tape was a little janky looking, so I cleaned it all off. Then discovered I'd only got enough of my 21mm Silca Platinum tape to do a 3rd of a rim. Whisky was the cheapest 21mm in a decent length I could see shipped from ebay.
Clean rim, heat rim with heat gun apply tape and it locks solid......single wrap same as above overlapb4 spokes or so
Careful, it gets dissolved by ammonia-based sealants!!!CB. Ugh. Remember the Joplin dropper post? I do. Complete rubbish. Last thing I've purchased from CB. And that was like 2008.
Anyways, back to rim tape. Something just jogged my memory. We used to use 'strapping tape', way back in the day. The rims were narrow back then, so it was the perfect width, it was strong, and it held. Could be worth a look. Probably cheaper than the name brand stuff (Stans, Schwalbe) and much thinner than duck/gorilla/gaffer tape. Yet still strong.
Here's a quick link:
3M 8934 Economy Strapping Tape - 1
Light duty. Bundles, reinforces and unitizes pallets. Sticks to corrugated, plastics and metal. Excellent abrasion, moisture and scuff resistance. Clear polypropylene backing reinforced with glass yarn filaments. Synthetic rubber adhesive. Use with 3M HB901 Tartan and 3M H-12 Tape Dispensers...
But it is part of the OG protocol for tubeless conversions (way before Stan's came out):
- tape rim with strapping tape
- cover with electrical tape
- cut valve out of old tube
- glue or at least use the homemade latex mix around the valve where you push it through the tape to get a better seal
Our shop used to use Stan's tape. We've switched to Whiskey because it seems to conform to the rim bed better and maybe sticks better too. It is QBP's house brand and available in so many widths that I can always find one that perfectly fits a rim.
Ahhh some original ghetto tubeless...lol that's going WAY back...
Cut 20" tube length wise lay over rim and put tire on..
I still use the cut tube occasionally and use stans between it and tire...it glues it together.
Another vote for Whisky tape. Only thing I've used for the last few years.
On the topic of Mavic's UST system... it appears Mavic is working on re-integrating the MTB market. No details on the rims, but here they are riding them!
And then after 3 years they’ll pull out again and you wont be able to get spare parts for their wacky hubs.
Whisky tape definitely stuck better than other types I've tried before; mostly Stan's and DT. Just need to get the road tyre mounted to see if it holds air long term without issue.
These have been spot on for me: easy to install, and seal consistently.There's a reusable Caffelatex rim strip too, but the bit suggesting a layer of electrical tape first sounds a bit sucky.
Caffélatex Tubeless Rim Strip
**Save €5 on Fat versions!** Caffélatex Tubeless Strip is a very light, puncture-proof and transparent tubeless rim strip that makes tubeless conversions quick and easy. Strip allows tubeless conversion of most standard bicycle wheels, using Tubeless or Tubeless-Ready tyres and Caffélatex or...www.effettomariposa.eu
I'd still rather someone made a heatshrink rim strip.
I've had one on a rear wheel for about a year now and after three tire changes it still looks good as new. Didn't need any electrical tape, either.
very interesting... what rim, and what tires are you using?
I've used them on 2019 LG1+ rims with Maxxis (Assegai, High Roller II, Minion DHR - all DD casing), and DT Swiss ex471/511 with Michelin DH34s. They all sealed first time, and held pressure for a good while. The DH34s haven't lost any air in about 5 months, now.