You probably have 6500k CFL's if they are white/blue. Get get 3500k or 4100k CFL's for a warmer, red light similar to the incandescent bulbs.We just moved into a new house and all the bulbs were early CFLs and the sickly blue light they give off is awful.
Thanks for the tip, I'll try and check them out. It would be nice to phase in LED's much like you are, but I'm not in a terrible hurry as the tech just keeps getting better.LED light bulbs seem to be coming down in price. This 8.6 W (40W equiv) LED bulb at Home Depot is going for $10. I'm phasing in LEDs into all the recessed lighting in my house as they get cheaper. So far so good. The color output of the one I've tried is similar to the old incandescent bulbs and they seem to play well with dimmers without any flickering.
Yes, as I stated they were original to the house, so I think the previous owners installed them when CFLs were first getting on the market. There are some that look very similar to the incandescents I installed to replace the bluish CFLs, but they still take 2-3 minutes to warm up to full brightness. I suppose I'll have to eventually replace all of them, but hopefully they last long enough for LED tech to be fully realized.You probably have 6500k CFL's if they are white/blue. Get get 3500k or 4100k CFL's for a warmer, red light similar to the incandescent bulbs.
What fixtures do you have them in? Do they look similar to incandescents even at dimmed levels?Well if the journalist knew how to search then you can get them for $23.99 on Ebay:
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I have 6 total of them and they work really well. Compared to CLFs the light color is really good and they are dimmable. They also turn on quicker too. I highly recommend them especially the Philips ones.
I have them 4 in these lamps:What fixtures do you have them in? Do they look similar to incandescents even at dimmed levels?
Very cool. I have a feeling we'll be all but through with CFLs within another 5 years, and it sounds like LEDs are going to take the lead. Regular bulbs won't really be an option soon so I'd like to get what works the first time (BIFL). I appreciate the feedback.I have them 4 in these lamps:
And 3 others in a mix of different lamps. Its not 100% the same but its really close and not something I notice. I actually like the light the give up better. Started out with 3 and then bought more.
Not really, unless the lights are on all day long. But, take the bulbs with you when you move. I have a collection of them that I bought while in college. I can only remember 3 of them burning out and I started buying them almost 8 years ago. The rest of them got put into my parents house after graduating.Does anyone have actual numbers on power bill savings? My roommate and I are considering switching our house over to LEDs but we're a little hesitant to make any kind of investment in a rental house if the return is going to take more than a few years. Has anyone seen noticeable monthly savings? We'd be switching over about 10 fixtures from incandescent to LED.
at 3500-4100, that is still too blue/white to compare to incandescent lamps, especially if they are going to be used in the evening or after dark in "living" areas (rather than "task/work" areas like kitchen).You probably have 6500k CFL's if they are white/blue. Get get 3500k or 4100k CFL's for a warmer, red light similar to the incandescent bulbs.
Agree I would not to go higher.at 3500-4100, that is still too blue/white to compare to incandescent lamps, especially if they are going to be used in the evening or after dark in "living" areas (rather than "task/work" areas like kitchen).
3500k is good for the kitchen and maybe a bath, but for most other rooms, living room, den, tv room, bedroom etc, 2700k is the way to go.
Color temperature preference is actually an arbitrary regional based preference (varies by country) unless you have special needs like SAD (in which case bluer temps are closer to sunlight peak as long as the CRI is decent but research has shown this natural looking light is not ideal for a healthy sleep environment).at 3500-4100, that is still too blue/white to compare to incandescent lamps, especially if they are going to be used in the evening or after dark in "living" areas (rather than "task/work" areas like kitchen).
3500k is good for the kitchen and maybe a bath, but for most other rooms, living room, den, tv room, bedroom etc, 2700k is the way to go.
I bought a bunch of 2700k and I don't like them much. They're the best CFLs I've seen, but the color is still bad. LED is much more promising right now. I have an LED task lamp that I bought at Ikea a couple months ago. The light from it is much more pleasant. There's also a new restaurant here that I thought had all halogen lighting, but it's actually all LED. It's very nice.at 3500-4100, that is still too blue/white to compare to incandescent lamps, especially if they are going to be used in the evening or after dark in "living" areas (rather than "task/work" areas like kitchen).
3500k is good for the kitchen and maybe a bath, but for most other rooms, living room, den, tv room, bedroom etc, 2700k is the way to go.
2700K is the default regional color temperature choice for the US and most LEDs and CFLs sold are that color temperature. Any big box store now carries at least 3-4 different temperatures in most bulb types. CFL ballasts can vary significantly by brand and the older designs were pretty annoying. As I mentioned above color temperature is only one small factor in the quality of the light - CRI and now CQS are not consistent across any lighting technology and often its a arbitrary preference rather than what is truly significant in comparing these technologies these days.I bought a bunch of 2700k and I don't like them much. They're the best CFLs I've seen, but the color is still bad. LED is much more promising right now. I have an LED task lamp that I bought at Ikea a couple months ago. The light from it is much more pleasant. There's also a new restaurant here that I thought had all halogen lighting, but it's actually all LED. It's very nice.
These are only about a year and a half old. Maybe good CFLs exist, but I haven't seen them.2700K is the default regional color temperature choice for the US and most LEDs and CFLs sold are that color temperature. Any big box store now carries at least 3-4 different temperatures in most bulb types. CFL ballasts can vary significantly by brand and the older designs were pretty annoying.
They do, most people just don't know what they are doing when buying them, they aren't looking at all the specs. Its not as simple as just buying an analog light bulb in one color temperature where the only notable difference would be how long they last between brands.These are only about a year and a half old. Maybe good CFLs exist, but I haven't seen them.
Don't you take math in school? Use it.Does anyone have actual numbers on power bill savings? My roommate and I are considering switching our house over to LEDs but we're a little hesitant to make any kind of investment in a rental house if the return is going to take more than a few years. Has anyone seen noticeable monthly savings? We'd be switching over about 10 fixtures from incandescent to LED.
When we were still renting, we had put LED bulbs in all of our fixtures. We kept all of the old bulbs and just took our led bulbs with us.Does anyone have actual numbers on power bill savings? My roommate and I are considering switching our house over to LEDs but we're a little hesitant to make any kind of investment in a rental house if the return is going to take more than a few years. Has anyone seen noticeable monthly savings? We'd be switching over about 10 fixtures from incandescent to LED.
Actually the best screw-in LEDs bulbs match but do not yet exceed CFLs in lumens/watt and aren't found in higher sizes than 850 lumen/14watt/60watt incad equals unless you go with a larger flood style bulbs (LEDs need adequate heatsinking)I do not have numbers, but I can give a comparison with what I have in LED bulbs.
I will be working on switching mom's house over to led's as I can. Simply put without having numbers to back it up, Led's are brighter while using less power. When I say brighter I mean they can produce more lumens with less power.
Here is my comparison, I was using a CFL type flashlight at work for years, thought it was great, thought it was awesome and Damn this thing is bright. Had to recharge it nightly and sometimes more, in fact the kit it came with even came with an extra battery that way if you used it up in less than a day you just swap batteries...... Now I was able to get an LED upgrade kit for it..... I thought it was bright before... Nope now its the power of the sun squared, and a single charge on the exact same battery lasts a good solid week without needing a recharge.
Will this difference make a huge impact on your utility bill? I do not know. But I do know that the price of the led bulbs will offset themselves even without the power savings, due to the fact that led's last longer than cfl's.
It is possible to know to much. Your head could explode. You should buy a hammock and relax a bit....Actually the best screw-in LEDs bulbs match but do not yet exceed CFLs in lumens/watt and aren't found in higher sizes than 850 lumen/14watt/60watt incad equals unless you go with a larger flood style bulbs (LEDs need adequate heatsinking)
You can easily get CFL bulbs in 1600 lumen/23watt/100w or 2600/42watt/150watt equal). LED bulbs are more directional as they have reflectors or TIR optics - CFL produce a more diffuse light but the same total lumens. CFLs are not well suited for flashlights.
Your electric bill will be the same with either unless you prefer to dim your lights in which case LED would function well and use less power since CFLs don't dim well. Either uses far less than incads and thus produces less waste heat in your home.
Actually I've been eying LEP but its unproven and warmup and restrike is slow. Luxim stole the IP from Ceravision. Super T8 or LED would be probably be more practical for a retrofit.It is possible to know to much. Your head could explode. You should buy a hammock and relax a bit....