[frango]

I can't see any topic about Shimano new XTR Trail 2011 gruppo, so I post this info, here.

http://www.sicklines.com/2010/06/27/2011-shimano-xtr-m980/

Trail brake lever looks very high-tech

But, brake pads/brake caliper with radiator?!

I like new Trail pedals

However, my Syncros Traverse AM pedals are 70g/pair lighter and much cheaper, I guess.

 

[epic]

I wonder how many WC DH bikes we'll see with those brakes.

 

[frango]

Oh, and I've almost forgotten... no SS RD, again?

 

[stiksandstones]

I wonder how many WC DH bikes we'll see with those brakes.

Probably anyone sponsored by shimano.
(Athertons, Giant, Bryn, Kintner, Intense, etc...)...so, quite a few.

 

[IH8Rice]

those are the ugliest brakes i have ever seen.
the sicklines article doesnt mention what their claim was on that black piece

 

[Dogboy]

those are the ugliest brakes i have ever seen.
the sicklines article doesnt mention what their claim was on that black piece

Those cooling fins are part of the brake pad, not the brake caliper. They are supposed to significantly reduce heat and fade in the brakes.

 

[4xBoy]

those are the ugliest brakes i have ever seen.
the sicklines article doesnt mention what their claim was on that black piece

Ice Technologies finned brake pads come standard for maximum heat control and fade reduction.

 

[IH8Rice]

Those cooling fins are part of the brake pad, not the brake caliper. They are supposed to significantly reduce heat and fade in the brakes.

Ice Technologies finned brake pads come standard for maximum heat control and fade reduction.

nice, should be easy to find replacements when needed.

 

[CBJ]

Always keep spare set of pads.

Not as sexy looking as XTR used to be.

 

[mattmatt86]

Are they essentially Heat sinks?

 

[HAB]

Are they essentially Heat sinks?

Yeah. I'm guessing they're aluminum, and are just sticking up there to help disperse heat. The fins are so they've got a lot of surface area, and thus transfer heat to the surrounding air faster.

 

[bizutch]

Are they essentially Heat sinks?

Yup! Can't you see the MTX logo and brass connectors? It's got awesome bass notes.

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

Stoked for the lighter platform pedals.

 

[epic]

The "cool" thing about the brakes is the ceramic pistons to reduce heat transfer to the brake fluid. The heat has to go somewhere, so... cooling fins. For those who don't like them, there is the XC brake.

I'm really liking the looks of the wheels. Just what I've been waiting for.

 

[buildyourown]

Cranks that come with 38t-26t is pretty sweet. Buying a 42-42-22 and throwing the chainrings away has always been such a waste of money.

 

[zdubyadubya]

Buying a 42-42-22 and throwing the chainrings away has always been such a waste of money.

Yeah. I totally hate it when manufacturers send duplicate chainrings...

 

[CoyoteRun]

It looks it is not a plastic cage, I hope.

I like new Trail pedals

However, my Syncros Traverse AM pedals are 70g/pair lighter and much cheaper, I guess.

 

[no skid marks]

I wonder if that XTR lever pushes the same amount of fluid as the four pot lever, would make a great franken brake if it did, I guess we'll see as the pros might rock them like that.

 

[Pete..]

Am I the only one that likes the new XTR cranks?

 

[jonKranked]

those are the ugliest brakes i have ever seen.
the sicklines article doesnt mention what their claim was on that black piece

function > fashion

Am I the only one that likes the new XTR cranks?

Nope. Though I can't quite figure out if the big ring is some proprietary job (wouldn't surprise me) or if that is just a sleek chainring cover...

 

[weedkilla]

Well..... No, they are bound to look like jewellery in the flesh. But I'm just a little amused that after all these months of hearing how XX is a revolution in front shifting and that 1:1.5 gear ratio is the main reason, that shimano have stuck with 12t gap for their 2 ring set up. Still doubt the need for xtr on a trailbike when slx/xt is so good, but I'm sure plenty will buy it and even more will want it! At least its a view of what will be available in my price range in 1-2years.

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

It looks it is not a plastic cage, I hope.

Alloy cage.

 

[Yukonrider]

If you read, the fins are optional.

 

[P.T.W]

function > fashion



Nope. Though I can't quite figure out if the big ring is some proprietary job (wouldn't surprise me) or if that is just a swastika shaped chainring cover...

Sorry,just something i noticed an wish i hadn't

 

[Lelandjt]

That's not a Nazi swastika. It's the Hindu version, a sign of peace and prosperity. It threw me for a loop the first time I saw one in Bali.

 

[bizutch]

Speaking of 2011 Shimano....anybody understand exactly what the difference between the current Shimano shoes and these new ones is...other than color? the article doesn't specifically say.

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/first-look-shimanos-new-am45-am41-mountain-bike-shoes-26954

 

[slowitdown]

Well..... No, they are bound to look like jewellery in the flesh. But I'm just a little amused that after all these months of hearing how XX is a revolution in front shifting and that 1:1.5 gear ratio is the main reason, that shimano have stuck with 12t gap for their 2 ring set up. Still doubt the need for xtr on a trailbike when slx/xt is so good, but I'm sure plenty will buy it and even more will want it! At least its a view of what will be available in my price range in 1-2years.

Yep. As a SRAM user, I follow XO/XX because that's what X9 will be in 2-3 years. Wouldn't even think about buying anything above X9, too expensive for too little an "improvement" -- fractional weight loss, supposed increased "crispness" in shifts, neither of which I can detect while riding.

Who builds Shimano's disc brakes? Shimano? Someone else?

 

[Lelandjt]

Shimano.

 

[bobsten]

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/first-look-shimanos-new-am45-am41-mountain-bike-shoes-26954

holy sh!t. do want. do want. do want.

 

[MtnbikeMike]

Nope. Though I can't quite figure out if the big ring is some proprietary job (wouldn't surprise me) or if that is just a sleek chainring cover...

I'd suspect the 3-ring crank has chainring bolts that thread in from the other side like 7900 Dura Ace. The XC double crank has standard bolts. The 38-26t has me stumped.

 

[4xBoy]

I suspect the 26-38 is a nut cap with the bolt coming in from the back side, making it the same crank as the 3 ring but looks clean, until you install a bash ring.

 

[CBJ]

Shoes looks good. A little lower profile than the 5.10. I wonder how sticky the soles is on the non spd.

 

[bizutch]

Shoes looks good. A little lower profile than the 5.10. I wonder how sticky the soles is on the non spd.

Mueller (Mulestar) has a pair of them in white and it's the same Vibram sole as on these black ones. He said it's a grip midway between Vans waffle sole and a 5.10 if that helps.

I seriously don't see or read any difference between these and the two other current white models though. Maybe a cheaper synthetic material for the uppers?

 

[Tmeyer]

still doubt the need for xtr on a trailbike when slx/xt is so good, but i'm sure plenty will buy it and even more will want it! At least its a view of what will be available in my price range in 1-2years.

qft..

 

[ZoRo]

Trail Wheels look really good too!! I suspect we will see quite a few 4x riders on them since they have the 15mm axle on them now.

 

[slyfink]

The 38-26t has me stumped.

in what way? I'm running a 36-28 right now (with an 11-34 cassette), and have never had better shifting up front. even with a gummed-up cable and hose. coupled with an 11-36 in the rear, that 38-26 sounds like it would give a very useful range of gears... I might prefer a 38-28, but whatever...

 

[MtnbikeMike]

in what way? I'm running a 36-28 right now (with an 11-34 cassette), and have never had better shifting up front. even with a gummed-up cable and hose. coupled with an 11-36 in the rear, that 38-26 sounds like it would give a very useful range of gears... I might prefer a 38-28, but whatever...

It had me stumped in how the rings bolted to the crank.

Quoted in that post:

Nope. Though I can't quite figure out if the big ring is some proprietary job (wouldn't surprise me) or if that is just a sleek chainring cover...

 

[Sov]

All this front derailleur stuff is great but what I'd really like to see is 10sp 9-36 on the back with a 27t or 28t single up front and an appropriately sized bashy and lightweight upper chain guide. Plus dual tap to smash through the gears quickly.

I reckon that would be an awesome trail groupset. Get to it please Shimano.

 

[Triple8Sol]

Pretty cool idea going with the finned pads. I installed a finned rear diff cover on my car for the same cooling purposes.

 

[I.van]

I'm pissed there's no 20mm option on the wheels. Time for Sram to release some XO wheels with the 20mm axle to complement there 20mm forks.