Val di Sole (ITA) 2013 World Cup #2
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I seriously need an IQ test prerequisite before people read my posts.
Welcome to ridemonkey jason. You live far away so do me a favor and slap the shlt out of yourself because I certainly can't at the moment.
Welcome to ridemonkey jason. You live far away so do me a favor and slap the shlt out of yourself because I certainly can't at the moment.
I wouldn't mind be interviewed by Steve Jones. Then I'd be famous.
Oh, and I LOVE how laid back Gwin is. The #1 thing that defeats a racer is pressure. He doesn't seem to feel too much of it.
Oh, and I LOVE how laid back Gwin is. The #1 thing that defeats a racer is pressure. He doesn't seem to feel too much of it.
Nothing.
Everyone knows that it's all about the rider, and given 10 riders separated by mere seconds, frame kinematics make zero difference to times or performance. They all have pivots, they all have suspension, and they all even have handlebars attached to them. Only a fool would think these bikes are anything but identical.
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If I had that skidmark asking me the same damn questions over and over again with lots of negative connotations and implications attached to each question, I would have kicked him square in the pu$$y long before that interview was over.
Clearly they're Scottish. Bahahah. Oh I kill me.
Glad the sarcasm came through.Can't tell if serious because talking to friend who tunes suspension
Seriously, when it's down to 10 very consistent riders with margins this tight, everything matters - anyone who thinks otherwise fails to realise that just because there are choices, doesn't mean everyone is making the right ones.
Haven't been reading all this nonsense, but with Gwin's responses in recent interviews I have grown to not like him even more. The "oh its just bike racing, i don't understand why people think I'm not serious when i say that". Oh really there buddy? You don't give a **** about your career? Or your fans? Or your sponsors for that matter? And the "you guys think wayyyy too much about this stuff". That prick can **** off as far as I'm concerned. Go Sam, go Brook, go anybody but Aaron!
I know Aaron is aware of the internet, his twitter and facebook is constantly updated with things like "God is good!" and **** like that...why he would come across as such a cock sucker in interviews that he knows everyone and their grandmother is going to be chompin at the bit to see is beyond me. Maybe if he showed some actual interest in his chosen profession he would get a little less hate.
I know Aaron is aware of the internet, his twitter and facebook is constantly updated with things like "God is good!" and **** like that...why he would come across as such a cock sucker in interviews that he knows everyone and their grandmother is going to be chompin at the bit to see is beyond me. Maybe if he showed some actual interest in his chosen profession he would get a little less hate.
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We all know nokian marzocchi tire is the best so that discusion can end. I think they only reason Gwin isn't dominating is that Spesh didn't hire feng shui experts and their team tent is leaking energy. For such a smart brand they should know better and not put mirrors opposite of doors. UnprofessionalCan't tell if serious because talking to friend who tunes suspension
Let's make it about tires.
It's all tires bro.
Bontrager tires are where it's at. And now sometimes continental.
well said!!
But bragging about bike-kinematics is overexaggerating one single variable when there are tons of other more significant ones. Like you can overcome bad kinematiks with a good shock but you can't get full potential out of your kinematiks with a bad one. I agree on the choices but I take that as set. Riders do this to get comfortable on their bikes and there always can be mistakes or irregularities in communication between them and sponsors and/or mechanics (remember Brook and the mondraker-foward-geometry episode)Glad the sarcasm came through.
Seriously, when it's down to 10 very consistent riders with margins this tight, everything matters - anyone who thinks otherwise fails to realise that just because there are choices, doesn't mean everyone is making the right ones.
what time is this thing going to be on?
'All about the rider' is also proven by privateers being on pace with pros with full team-support: http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Live-from-the-Favelas-of-Val-di-Sole-2013.html
hehe DERP imperialism ceased to exist some time ago
Just wait for takeover of chinese monkeys.Dont mix up invention with share stock buying by guys with large stomaches.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCOTT_Sports
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Who's bragging? Just saying it is indeed a factor, you're the only person here that consistently disagrees. You can't overcome bad kinematics with a good shock - all you can do is compensate, never the best solution. Assuming like for like (as you say), a bike with better kinematics will be better than a lesser one. I don't see why you struggle with this concept so much, perhaps it is because you haven't seen the significant differences in current frames - while many are similar, there are also significant differences between some of the top 10 riders' frames.
When I say choices - I don't mean only the choices that a mechanic or team can make - I mean choices that a frame designer can make, and these are not always fully informed decisions. I think that is the part you are missing. Believe me, I understand where this issue sits in the pecking order - no one is claiming than frame kinematics are more important that rider skill or proper sizing and geometry.
But it is indeed a factor, and a factor that could result in one to multiple seconds worth of difference over a run. As rider skill levels to a point where the top 10 are playing musical chairs for #1 on a regular basis, and as sizing, geometry, and suspension quality + setup level out, other factors will come into play.
In past years, teams have measured and published time reductions due to bikes that accelerate better, have improved geometry, use different wheel sizes, and even due to different helmet and clothing designs (skin suits and peakless helmets anyone?). Insignificant in your eyes /= insignificant on the stopwatch.
I love how hardcore the internet has lately become. Answering to interviews is Gwin's job. (yeah they pay him for more than racing). Also people are curious sowhy are people surprised he gets asked such questions. Also why there was no such outrage when similar questions were asked to non US riders.
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It's better than that, basically Jones asked him all the questions in this thread and now folk are outraged! Oh the ironing....
because it is DEeeerp.
So who's offering the £7,000 current bid? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sam-Hills-2013-Custom-PINK-Nukeproof-Pulse-/161045393587?
Luca in 3rd! Pretty impressive
if you can't get live timing the Dirt twitter feed is covering the racing https://twitter.com/DirtMagazine
Luca was .18 off the win. Holy crap, the top 3 were separated by .18 on THAT track.
Crazy.
Me too but the event has not started yet maybe that is why.
i know the internet is hard and stuff, but when i go to this site it clearly tells me when the event will start...
http://live.redbull.tv/events/222/uci-mtbworld-cup-2013-val-di-sole-downhill/
http://live.redbull.tv/events/222/uci-mtbworld-cup-2013-val-di-sole-downhill/
as with the year prior and last weeks race, it is time delayed. they've never shown the women's race live.
yup, which makes it really annoying when someone announces the winner before we've had a chance to watch!
Yeah, how dare they stream that **** for free and not even do the whole thing. I just cant believe the nerve of these people
Jesus fvcking christ.
EVERYONE knows scott is not a socal company. That's why them making demo chainstays is swizzyland on a VERY recent model year bike flies is the face of this whole stupid 'outdated' demo been ridin in the US too much gwin bullshlt. Everyone I know that has ridden one really digs those gamblers and just talks about how capable they feel at speed. And whether you want to admit it or not, it shares some of the same things that everyone wants to bag on regarding an 'outdated' demo.
It's really no wonder all someone has to do is drink a beer in this sport for you people to think someone has 'personality'