Cane Creek Double Barrel Air
- Thread starter Trekrules
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Till tomorrow, I don't believe anything.
i dont see it on pb
April fools y'all
but in all seriousness I'd think it's only a matter of time until Cane Creek releases us a new air shock. Their current air offerings have been on the market or what seems like forever. A CCDBA could well be on it's way.
It would weigh about as much as other coil shocks.....(given the CCDB is 200g + over RC4/Vivid/Etc...)
I keed, I keed!
Is it really time to embrace air shocks (rear) for DH? Restricted to smaller riders? or can us fatties join?
I run an air setup on my trail bike, and it works well, albeit a little less active in the beginning of travel than I would prefer. I didnt do the Vivid air on my V10c because at my weight I fall above the Mfr spec pressures (Im working on it...) but was very interested in the possibility.
EDITORIAL COMMENT: This post/query is a somewhat serious response independent of the fact (or fiction) of the CCDBA's legitimacy, or any April 1 related shenanigans.
I dont know of anyone that uses an air damper since Cane Creek used to make the AD-* series. Air shocks use an air spring, but essentially the same hydraulic damper components as any coil.
Modern air shocks are hydraulically damped.
I saw it on Sicklines.com too.
Yet another person that has been misinformed.
A 9.5" x 3" CCDB shock is 28 GRAMS heavier than an RC4 of the same size.
http://www.sicklines.com/weights/rearshocks/
I cant speak for the RC4, which I dont have or want, but it was ~200g's heavier than my Vivid when we weighed it in IH8Rice's garage. Doesn't jibe with the SickLines chart tho. Hmmm....
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I will say that CC's coils tend to be on the portly side. Did you weigh the shocks with coils on them?
The vivid has a very big, burly spring. It's possible the vivid with spring is ~200 g heavier than the cane Creek with spring but the shock bodies alone do not have as big of a variation in weight...
its a 2011 demo so it could be a photoshoped pic of Curtis Keene's bike since he uses the vivid air... just a thought
pic is too small to tell if its been shopped, but something about the angle of the reservoir in comparison to everything else seems off...
shopped or not, i would definitely bet that CC is working on an air sprung DB, should start saving now. would rule on my trail bike.
shopped or not, i would definitely bet that CC is working on an air sprung DB, should start saving now. would rule on my trail bike.
RC4 has that big shaft and that huge reservoir so I'm not suprised it would also be heavier. But I'd be happier if they made a front fork. Don't care for air rear that much.
Are people seriously weighing shocks with springs?
Without them the difference is so small that personally I don't think it's even worth discussing. The RC4 isn't heavy by any means, don't forget the shaft is alloy not steel.
http://www.sicklines.com/weights/rearshocks/
It actually happens to be lighter than the CCDB, BOS, Elka, Vivid, basically everything.
Without them the difference is so small that personally I don't think it's even worth discussing. The RC4 isn't heavy by any means, don't forget the shaft is alloy not steel.
http://www.sicklines.com/weights/rearshocks/
It actually happens to be lighter than the CCDB, BOS, Elka, Vivid, basically everything.
Got to stare at Malcolm's Double Barrel Air today. Joked that I was gonna take a pic and make money. He told me he'd rather I didn't. 
I feel special...and yet shamed that I made a buddy feel awkward with a bad joke. So goes my daily life.
I feel special...and yet shamed that I made a buddy feel awkward with a bad joke. So goes my daily life.
You mean take pics similar to what's freely available on the googlenet?Got to stare at Malcolm's Double Barrel Air today. Joked that I was gonna take a pic and make money. He told me he'd rather I didn't.
I feel special...and yet shamed that I made a buddy feel awkward with a bad joke. So goes my daily life.
Or a video.. like this one?
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150212674083425&oid=106823261576&comments
Those pics sure look like that shock tuning on the go will be a nightmare on those specific bikes.
That said, I'd like to give one a go.
That said, I'd like to give one a go.
I don't think knob access looks that bad, they have the little tool that makes it pretty easy from the side.
I don't really have a bike that I think I'd particularly want one on right now, but the coil one on my DH bike is awesome, and it's always nice to have more options.
I don't really have a bike that I think I'd particularly want one on right now, but the coil one on my DH bike is awesome, and it's always nice to have more options.
Dear Supercow...take note. Sarcasm meter should be set to full on in this forum. 
As for getting to knobs, Malcolm said the air valve can be rotated to whatever position on the clock you want it. That will help with getting a shock pump at the right angle for the right frame.
As for getting to knobs, Malcolm said the air valve can be rotated to whatever position on the clock you want it. That will help with getting a shock pump at the right angle for the right frame.
doesnt look like that from the pics
Really...??? Because the pics prove it. Note the yellow bike's air valve.
My educated guess it's like the air sleeve on RP23, when the shock isn't pressurized you can rotate it.
I just wish these companies would try to make lighter (or lighten existing ones) coil shocks in stead of trying to make air shocks feel like coil. But that's just me...
Not just you.I just wish these companies would try to make lighter (or lighten existing ones) coil shocks in stead of trying to make air shocks feel like coil. But that's just me...
x2,if you look at multiple pics,some of the bodies are diff.
I still have a hard time beleiving the twin tube technology follows into the air dampn'd world...... IE all the ajusters being the same etc.
Also looking at how the "air fitting" or wtv you wana call it,seems to be different in the pix too.^^^^ edit just noticed talk of body being rotateable.
The only reason air shocks are out in the dh world is for weenies with wallets.
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ding!:d
what's that? a prototype shock with each iteration that doesn't look identical? inconceivable
you're also still apparently having a hard time understanding the difference between an air sprung shock and an air damped shock
if the ccdb air ever comes to the real world,and it comes out with twintube,with the exact same ajusters etc. I will buy you beer for the night.
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Air shocks still use oil damping.
i wanna get this offer notarized so i'll be able to take you up on it. I like good beer, and I can drink a lot of it.
^Yes, Vivid air and coil are identical except for the spring.
come to bromont or msa,and we have a deal.
it doesn't...
the spring mechanism (coil, air, elastomers, magnets, etc) is physically separated from the damping unit of the shock. the damping circuit is a closed, sealed oil system. the oil is controlled by the main piston of the shock, which is essentially what connects your spring mechanism to your damping mechanism.