Diablo 10/10/2009
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I call BS. You look like Beavis in your picture.
Yes, my headtube welds finally let go on the Phantom Drop. It was a manufacturer defect. All I can say is, thank god I walked away from that... even on that small of drop, talk about an abrupt stop. Thanks Leatt!
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I love how everybody is such an expert on frame design. 
maybe not, but does your demo 9 snap weekly? you are more of an expert than anybody buying a jamisI love how everybody is such an expert on frame design.
Welds are stronger than the metal they are joining, so when you see a failure, you'll see it in the tubing (unless there are bad welds). This tube snapping isn't surprising when you look at Jamis' history of bikes breaking, I've seen probably a dozen cracked Dakars over the years. They get better every time they redesign, so in a few years they might get them dialed. I wonder if they have metal quality issues in their tubing. Also, no rental bike is destined for a long life. Just sucks someone has to take a spill because of it.
one possible remedy would be going back to the days of the banshee scream, the keggar headtube of yore (which seems to have resurfaced in a new way on their current model, the "wildcard") those things were crazy overbuilt...I'd be curious to see how the normal consumers are fairing...I see a couple of folks who own Jamis' and ride at Diablo, I wonder what experiences they've had with the frame
me me me!!!!
So how many Diablo rentals had frame breaks in the past, prior to the Jamis'?
Did any of the IH or other brands frames break?
Did any of the IH or other brands frames break?
Anthem is closer to 7 or 8 feet down with an 18 foot gap. 20 degree downslope? no way... its less than 5. For reference, the cannon jump is only 17 degrees, so imagine what 20 degrees downslope would look like.
And there were piles of broken IH frames the first time they got the resort rental treatment.
And there were piles of broken IH frames the first time they got the resort rental treatment.
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i took a guess for the 20 degrees, but if u think that is 20 feet out,and 7-8 down you must be using the pinkbike ruler. its about the size of the person going off of it, who is not standing straight up anway. for anybody who wants to see what snapped this jamis. (which cant be more than 8 rental days old) here it is.
I know for a fact the dimensions of the drop since I used a craftsman tape measure WHEN IT WAS BUILT AND I SAID 18 Feet, not 20. You're batting 1.000 with your facts in this thread
better than most baseball players
and a perfect average at that!
theres your problem. if you had a Kobalt tape measure youd see different
lmao.....
Lets just be glad most of us are okay, healthy and are in great spirits....
Oh wait.. the DH season is coming to an end, which means RideMonkey will Become HCOR for the next 6 months.....
Suprised there hasn't been a "Diablo Sucks, Plattekill rules" yet..
My buddy snapped his Jamis Diablo on the chainstay last season.. so I guess all these broken rentals doesn't really suprise me?
I think everyone matured from the "Diablo sucks plattekill rules" stuff.... we are all happy we have options to ride with lift assist in the North East......
i only hit Highland and Diablo this season though....
just one final note on the whole broken rental thing...part of the reason y companies like Jamis, Iron Horse (when it was a company), Specialized etc do these rental programs is to put their frames through a mass range of riders, some smooth, some terrible, as well as to see how their frames will hold up after being dumped multiple times a day...but i do hope things get sorted out because the last thing you want to think about when coming off a drop is "hope my bike stays in one piece"...can't wait till next season though hopefully all the **** destroyed by ski stuff will be replaced and improved upon! (Although i'm not sad to see crap chute go)
Well i don't think any of the Plattekill bikes broke in half this season..... so +1 Plattekill!!
yeah, same w/me.. did alittle blue mtn, and whiteface.. but no platty..
It's Snowing... and Sticking...
Should be a sick race if there's snow on the mountain.
It sure got cold early this year.
Well, it all depends on if we are going to get snow on Saturday.
Even if it rains Sat., it will still be a sick race.
6x12 at best - that drop is lamesauce; the 'reg' line to the left is magnitudes of gnar better.
Lamesauce? Magnitudes of gnar? I really wish people would type in English instead of internet make-believe language. How old are you?
Anyways, I'm pretty sure that the person that BUILT the drop has a pretty good idea of the dimensions. Try reading the rest of the thread.
For what it's worth, that drop is awesome. Polish Rambo builds amazing things.
Good drop for sure just a shame it leads to nowhere. Good stunts become great if they are part of the flow of a trail in my opinion.
He he - funny thing it that drop actually leads straight into some cool turns. I think its the best drop they have build.i believe your talking about road to nowhere ?
Does that sentence make any sense?
Ridetopia should have some better sign on the road. I had no idea they rent bikes.
I am 40, and managed to ace all my writing requirments (<-- look I missed an 'e') up through my BA in Anthropology; as you pointed out, it's the internet it is not a Doctoral thesis as some try to make it - I try not to take it that seriously
I am 6'8" and when I stand under the end of the bridge, I am about level with it. I misstated and said 6 instad of almost 7. Bottom line is that, regardless of claimed dimesnions, it is a simple plop of a drop that I find boring, and have skipped it in favor of the left line almost exclusively. That asessment is on point with what I hear from pretty much every rider I know, especially the rippers/racers. You can disagree without being offended or throwing jabs. It's a great progression test, but a boring line.
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Yea that left line is fun as hell too. I know that it's not the biggest drop in the park, but I find it fun partly because I think a lot of people don't ride it. You come into the ladder bridge pretty much blind, which makes it cool. Then you get to sail over a giant rock right after you land.
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Im not speakin for everybody - not trying to!
I think most people skip it, but some people session it. The first time I hit it I was a tad sketched out on the approach due to the 'blind' factor. Also sketchy was my desire to use that big rock after as a giant kicker - Im glad I didnt follow through on that one...
The bikes at Plattekill don't get ridden a fourth as much as they do at diablo...
but they are twice or three times as old....i guess Turner makes a better bike than Jamis...who woulda thought
A couple years older? Yes. As many ridden hours as a single season Jamis bike? Not likely....
Turner makes a far better bike no doubt. But those Jamis bikes are ridden everyday of the season...