[Olga_icannot]

So, on the topic of swoopy tubez, here's one of the first iterations of the Trail Pistol. Now this is too swoopy.
https://m.facebook.com/RideGG/photos/a.187117227996832.56776.183364861705402/1248747305167147/?type=3&comment_id=1248771071831437&force_theater=true&notif_t=page_user_activity&notif_id=1476404266157901&ref=m_notif

This:

picture stolen from http://www.pedalroom.com/bike/santa-cruz-jackal-26838

 

[SDet]

Actually wanted one of those^^^ (still do)

 

[SuboptimusPrime]

That makes my ankles hurt just looking at it.

 

[Lazoup]

I remember a conversation about the older gen Norcos, so I had to look for them (did not remember this one actually)

(pinkbike: Greymon)

I see it now

 

[jstuhlman]

That makes my ankles hurt just looking at it.

built mine up as an uber-burly all-mtn rig. even took it to wilsons. hurt my back and my pride more than my ankles

 

[SuboptimusPrime]

I rode a first gen chameleon with the square chainstays. That thing was rough so I can only imagine how brutal a jackal must have been. May god have mercy on your lumbar spine.

Also minus 46 enduro points for zero stem-crank-seatpost color coordination and overall poorly executed colorway. No way you could ever match that shit to your gloves and helmet....surprised they even let you into the Pisgah on that thing.

 

[HAB]

Has anybody tried to use one of the One Up direct mount chainguides on a Megatrail? I bought one, but the clocking on the mounting holes seems off, it doesn't really fit. Might have to bust out the angle grinder.

 

[SuboptimusPrime]

I could not get the S3 mount guide to work because the surface of the guide could not sit flush against the frame. The ISCG mount version works fine tho.

 

[HAB]

I could not get the S3 mount guide to work because the surface of the guide could not sit flush against the frame. The ISCG mount version works fine tho.

Because of the shaft of the main pivot coming through behind the forward mounting bolt, or because of the 5mm offset between the mounting plane of the bolts? I can shim that out fine, but the guide just sits too low.

I looked up the mounting standard, and the A dimension on mine is about 8mm shorter than it should be.

I don't have the bolt on ISCG tabs for mine unfortunately, they weren't included with the frame. I was hoping to use the direct mount guide to avoid using a BB mount setup.

 

[jstuhlman]

Because of the shaft of the main pivot coming through behind the forward mounting bolt, or because of the 5mm offset between the mounting plane of the bolts? I can shim that out fine, but the guide just sits too low.

I looked up the mounting standard, and the A dimension on mine is about 8mm shorter than it should be.

I don't have the bolt on ISCG tabs for mine unfortunately, they weren't included with the frame. I was hoping to use the direct mount guide to avoid using a BB mount setup.

sounds complicated. should've gotten a jackal.

 

[4130biker]

built mine up as an uber-burly all-mtn rig. even took it to wilsons. hurt my back and my pride more than my ankles

I think he's referring to the profile cranks on the other one. I recall bleeding through my socks and having blood streaks on my crank arm frequently on my profiles, anyway.

 

[HAB]

sounds complicated. should've gotten a jackal.

I do have a hardtail trail bike that I ride a lot.

 

[boostindoubles]

I do have a hardtail trail bike that I ride a lot.

If you end up going the ISCG route w/ a proper guide/bash, I'll take the direct mount thingy off yer hands...

 

[SuboptimusPrime]

Because of the shaft of the main pivot coming through behind the forward mounting bolt, or because of the 5mm offset between the mounting plane of the bolts? I can shim that out fine, but the guide just sits too low.

I looked up the mounting standard, and the A dimension on mine is about 8mm shorter than it should be.

I don't have the bolt on ISCG tabs for mine unfortunately, they weren't included with the frame. I was hoping to use the direct mount guide to avoid using a BB mount setup.

My issue was the offset between the two mounting bolts. I just abandoned ship at that point and ordered the iscg tabs. I had the iscg guide on another bike and just swapped the s3 onto that one. I don't recall the guide being too low for my 32t ring tho.

 

[HAB]

If you end up going the ISCG route w/ a proper guide/bash, I'll take the direct mount thingy off yer hands...

I'll fuck with it a little more, but if I can't figure it out I'll take you up on that.

 

[jackalope]

built mine up as an uber-burly all-mtn rig. even took it to wilsons. hurt my back and my pride more than my ankles

Dat seatpost...

How much insertion did you get? (yes, someone can go ahead and post that on the 'No Context' thread)
Regardless, the chain guide appears to fit better than HAB's, so there's that

 

[jstuhlman]

Dat seatpost...

How much insertion did you get? (yes, someone can go ahead and post that on the 'No Context' thread)
Regardless, the chain guide appears to fit better than HAB's, so there's that

balls deep?

ummm....iirc the minimum line was just a hair above the clamp.

 

[mtg]

On our way to the annual Moab Camping Weekend, first stop:

 

[jstuhlman]

so @jackalope's a multi-market retail tycoon, eh? FANCY.

 

[jackalope]

This enterprise represents a blending of my great love of adult libations and my NC heritage. So yes, I have a whole section of meth flavored rum.

 

[jstuhlman]

This enterprise represents a blending of my great love of adult libations and my NC heritage. So yes, I have a whole section of meth flavored rum.

will you also be developing a line of chitlins-flavored moonshine?

 

[jackalope]

will you also be developing a line of chitlins-flavored moonshine?

Absolutely. I will even say that it's vegan to appeal to the faux emvironmentally conscious demographic.

 

[mtg]

Absolutely. I will even say that it's vegan to appeal to the faux emvironmentally conscious demographic.

Oh, really? How convenient, I only drink vegan whiskey. (I may have just had some prior to this post)

 

[HAB]

Oh, really? How convenient, I only drink vegan whiskey. (I may have just had some prior to this post)

Was it gluten free though?

 

[jackalope]

Looks like @mtg is finally starting to refine his new straight tubed frame design. I guess this proves straight tubez are best tubez

 

[SylentK]

Straight tubez lover in action:

Huck to flat?! No fucks given!

Thanks @mtg and the rest of the GG crew to a great weekend!

 

[mtg]

The Moab Camping Weekend was badass, thanks to those that attended.

I'll post some pics when I garner the motivation to get them off the borrowed iPhone I used for the weekend and shrink them down to monkey permitted size

 

[jackalope]

The Moab Camping Weekend was badass, thanks to those that attended.

I'll post some pics when I garner the motivation to get them off the borrowed iPhone I used for the weekend and shrink them down to monkey permitted size

Please make a point to highlight the photos of riders being castrated by their not straight toobed enough Trail Pistols. I've heard that's a thing.

 

[mtg]

LOL

In other news, the libations from Jackalope Liquors has worn off. I feel like I need more vegan whiskey

 

[jstuhlman]

I suggest switching to the blood of sacrificial riders of tiny-wheeled bikes. it will fill you with even moar KOM-setting powerz.

 

[Jim Mac]

a vegan contribution from my ancestors:

 

[CheetaMike]

http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-reviews/guerrilla-gravity-trail-pistol-review/

 

[mrgto]

For those that ride the MT, what water bottles fit? I have a side load cage and one old Gatorade bottle that works. I just want to buy a couple more to put in my rotation but most look too long...

 

[HAB]

For those that ride the MT, what water bottles fit? I have a side load cage and one old Gatorade bottle that works. I just want to buy a couple more to put in my rotation but most look too long...

I assume that depends on size.

I use the Fabric cageless bottles on mine (medium).

 

[mtg]

Water bottles and cages are a place where new standards could actually make sense. Other than bottle diameter and cage bolt spacing, there are none. It would be awesome if there was a standard distance from bottom bolt to bottom of bottle, and if the bottle diameter could get a little bigger, and thus make the bottles shorter for a given volume.

We stock the Camelbak Podium 2 (with badass custom graphics) as it is the lowest profile 21oz bottle that we've found. And, the preferred cage that's used in the Frame Storage Kit, is a side mount where the frame bottle mounts have been optimized for. Since there are no standards, we had to pick a combo and optimize for that, and the combo listed fits the best in our experience.

Edit: that Fabric cageless system looks pretty slick as well.

 

[captainspauldin]

I assume that depends on size.

I use the Fabric cageless bottles on mine (medium).

600ml version?

 

[HAB]

600ml version?

Yeah

 

[SylentK]

For those that ride the MT, what water bottles fit? I have a side load cage and one old Gatorade bottle that works. I just want to buy a couple more to put in my rotation but most look too long...

I can fit a 21oz Camelbak water bottle on my size L Mega.

 

[mrgto]

Thanks for the replies guys. I'll get a podium bottle. It should work with my Lezyne cage.

 

[jackalope]

I am disappoint about this "hydration bottle" discussion. Personally, I've fabbed up a special bottle holder on the headtube that is designed to handle a man's performance sport beverage -