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Revved trials bike.
Barelli talks about Rid Egg
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Yoann Barelli - 2021 Team Announcement - Downtime Podcast
Tune in to find out how Yoann Barelli has put together a team setup for 2021 that allows him to reduce his carbon footprint and go FAST!
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Right now the focus is on clearing the backlog of Trail Pistol and The Smash bikes sold at the end of 2020. Chasing a few parts and offering some nice upgrade substitutions for folks where needed.
I can share more once there is line of sight on parts of new builds on these models. All signs point to opening up ordering before summer/fairly soon. A number of moving pieces being meshed together.
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Hope pricing was always very good at wholesale levels. We never bought in quantity but you guys may want to look into them Their brakes, hubs and controls are all top-notch. This way you can stay in with the non-slave labour and environmentally ethical ideology....
Plus you probably won't run into long lead times being made in the UK etc.....
Plus you probably won't run into long lead times being made in the UK etc.....
I think having an option to run 150mm would be advantageous; you could compete in both the 140mm and 150mm segments. When I was looking for my last trail bike I was looking specifically for 150mm 29er as it do-it-all AM bike to replace both a trail bike and enduro bike. Knowing the Smash was at least 145mm with a decent chance of being able to get to ~150mm by running a 62.5mm shock kept it in the consideration set.
Except Brexit finally happened so prices, transit costs and delivery times might trend upward a bit.
Inception.
See #10 at 4:17
See #10 at 4:17
Jonathan Ellsworth from Blister gear review interviewed Yoann about getting into mountain biking, setting up Barelli Concepts coaching, and partnering with GG:
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Yoann Barelli on his move to Guerrilla Gravity; Coaching; Comfort Zones; & More (Ep.49) | Blister
BLISTER | Bikes & Big Ideas, Podcasts | January 14, 2021 | The most honest & in-depth reviews of outdoor gear
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if only someone warned them before they voted
Right now it's still cheap on our end. They keep printing money over here and the brakes will cost $1K WHOLESALE though.
@mtg @marshalolson - on the Smash, how much are you planning on lowering the BB? If not decided...slam that shit.
I also think the current Smash (and possibly also the Gnarvana in 170mm fork setup) is a bit high, depending on application. Since Gnarvana is a bit more geared towards plowing, I can see the 450mm BB height is OK for it, but 445 would probably be better all around. I'd say Smash should be 338-340 with 150mm fork (more of a flowy, sporty trail setup), 342-345 with a 160 fork.
My points of reference are spending about 2 years on a Nomad 3 with a 340-345mm BB (160/165 & 170/165), 1.5 years on a Sentinel with 345mm BB (160/140), now about 4 months with a 160 fork on a Smash (349 BB) and Gnarvana (345 BB). I also dabbled with mulleting the Sentinel (330mm BB) and Smash (334mm BB). A 350mm BB feels very high when leaned over in berms, especially in tight radius ones. A 345 lets me pedal through most small trail features without thinking about it. A 340 BB rails corners but with 175mm cranks I got lots of pedal strikes on the Nomad, still a few with 170 cranks. The low 330 mullets felt like they were glued to corners, but I would never ride that on anything but smooth flow trails, and event then would look at 165 cranks. Finally, the GG bikes ride high in their travel (either due to suspension kinematics, or cause I'm running coil), so they could probably stand to err on the side of lower rather than higher.
Point of reference: Sentinel v2 (160 front, 150 rear) is at 346.
Gotcha. Super helpful. Thanks!
My Gnarvana measures an actual 13.5” with
2.5 minion DH tires. Will take a peek at the tables and assumptions!
My Gnarvana measures an actual 13.5” with
2.5 minion DH tires. Will take a peek at the tables and assumptions!
I put an eccentric BB on my last trail bike to lower and move the BB rearwards, about 5mm each way. It would be interesting to see that functionality built into a bike.
The '16 Banshee Spitfire I had was 333mm and I didn't have issues with rock strikes, '16 Troy I had was 338mm and I didn't have issues there either. Much lower than that and I've run into problems. This is in Norcal - Bay Area and Sierra/Tahoe.
342 bb height on my Sight (med 650b) feels fast.
My N3 was set up with 170 up front as well, so the BB must have been similar to above (340-345, so effectively the same??) but my Sight is a much more confident bike in fast corners than the N3.
My N3 was set up with 170 up front as well, so the BB must have been similar to above (340-345, so effectively the same??) but my Sight is a much more confident bike in fast corners than the N3.
One other reference point I thought of: the last couple Stumpy EVOs (140, 150 rear 29er) have had a low setting that's down around 332/333, and I've seen a lot of people on the relevant MTBR threads for it advocate for running 165mm cranks in that setting.
I'm also in the same area as @djjohnr .
I'm also in the same area as @djjohnr .
To clarify, I don't think the BB is too high currently...but more is usually better 
My 160/150mm 13" BB bike must be completely unrideabru then. 
New England zero flow trails, all chunk and tight crap. Low BB FTW.
New England zero flow trails, all chunk and tight crap. Low BB FTW.
Obligatory YMMV, but a super low BB is awesome until it's not, as @Nick can attest too with an exploded OneUp pedal and I think a sad bone to go along with it. Point being, it's one thing to have a low BB if you're never going super fast for the most part or riding trails sans rox/stumps/knobs, but it can be an IED if you're going 88 mph on steep, rocky terrain. My Mk1 Megatrail is fucko low at 12.7" (322) and my Pistola (with a 150 fork) is 13.3 (338). Could probably get away with the Pistola being a scooch lower, and would not be opposed to a 170 mm fork on the MT to actually raise it up.
Not surprisingly, I agree with alllll that. My 2015 megatrail in gravity mode (322mm BB, 160mm travel) was the first bike I found that was legitimately "too low" to ride, even on a mostly DH trail. I was dragging heals in turns and big compressions and all kinds of wild shit. My 2018 in trail mode (340, 155) is fine but again in gravity (330, 165) it's absolutely as low as I want it (a bit too low for my preference). My Revved Pistola with 140mm fork (335, 130) and it doesn't need to be any lower IMO--I can slap and slash corners all day on that thing and I rarely have pedal strikes.
IMO very few people who actually ride wants a bike that has an "internet approved" BB height.
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There is such a thing as too low, but I don’t think ~335mm on a ~150mm bike qualifies as that.