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The Economy (2020/21)

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
38,461
7,821
Buying things on sale. How's your dollar cost average doing?
I was selfishly worried that the slump wouldn't last through the end of April, when I get a half year bonus paid out. Seems like the recession will last at least as long as coronavirus... so through the fall?
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,670
7,359
Colorado
I was selfishly worried that the slump wouldn't last through the end of April, when I get a half year bonus paid out. Seems like the recession will last at least as long as coronavirus... so through the fall?
Who knows? I'm starting to get the panicked "I need to make changes" calls from people [trumpers] I told to scale back 4-6 months ago. I'm shocked. Shocked I say!
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,670
7,359
Colorado
So if I'm just watching investments burn, at what point DO I do something?
Well, you should start putting more money in now, if you haven't already. I'm putting in another slug of investment cash tomorrow. My last big "low buy" out of normal paycheck cycle was late-2018 and we're still higher than then. I bought a few grand out of normal cycle a week ago too. Otherwise, I just have a long plan for saving and investment strategy.

Timing the market has proven to be less profitable and doing something after the fact is too late. So... buckle your britches son; you're going for a ride.
 

Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
10,380
8,974
Crawlorado
And here I was thinking taking 1.5 years off from investing was a mistake given how the market performed. Nothing like a hard reset right as I start contributing again.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,670
7,359
Colorado
And... my phone is dead with no charger. Sorry folks.

Also, volume is now consistently higher than 2008.
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
38,461
7,821
most times you mention volumes of trades ........ why does this matter so much? I really don't know...
My guess is that it correlates with volatility. So does VIX, for that matter, and that's high similarly.
 

Adventurous

Starshine Bro
Mar 19, 2014
10,380
8,974
Crawlorado
And yet the market still lost 10% today, losses which are only rivaled by the flash crash in 1987, and sandwiched between trading days from The Great Depression.

If I was a betting man I'd wager tomorrow will be a bloodbath as well. Like a red wedding for the stock market.
 

Nick

My name is Nick
Sep 21, 2001
24,110
14,799
where the trails are
And yet the market still lost 10% today, losses which are only rivaled by the flash crash in 1987, and sandwiched between trading days from The Great Depression.

If I was a betting man I'd wager tomorrow will be a bloodbath as well. Like a red wedding for the stock market.
THANKS FOR THE UPBEAT MESSAGE TIM !!!!!!
 

StiHacka

Compensating for something
Jan 4, 2013
21,560
12,505
In hell. Welcome!
How long until Italy defaults on its debt? The systemic shock will be fun to ride. Perhaps I should buy some property and get another mortgage before that happens.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,670
7,359
Colorado
most times you mention volumes of trades ........ why does this matter so much? I really don't know...
Number of trades. If a stock is down 10% on 1% of normal volume, who cares. It's an outlier trade that defined the price. If it's down 10% on 10x normal volume, everyone is selling. They are fleeing the stock and it has momentum, like a snowball going down a hill.

2008 was a clusterfuck on high volume. This is going down faster on higher volume.
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,670
7,359
Colorado
Wait. CORPORATE SOCIALISM?!?!? :rant:
Remember 2008 when the banks went under? A while bunch of laws we're put in place to keep the banks from getting some of those spots again. The R's got rid of a lot of those laws a few years ago...

Now remember what happened when banks started defaulting? Take that and add a large social limitation occurring in an over-stretched, service economy where 80% of people live paycheck to paycheck.
 

SkaredShtles

Michael Bolton
Sep 21, 2003
65,876
12,853
In a van.... down by the river
Remember 2008 when the banks went under? A while bunch of laws we're put in place to keep the banks from getting some of those spots again. The R's got rid of a lot of those laws a few years ago...
Well, duh - you gotta let the free market function unfettered! Oh, wait. :think:

Now remember what happened when banks started defaulting? Take that and add a large social limitation occurring in an over-stretched, service economy where 80% of people live paycheck to paycheck.
You gettin' any calls from clients wanting the FDIC to cover their equities losses? :D
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
21,670
7,359
Colorado
My retirement plan is dying early!!
You're good. Start buying stuff in reasonable amounts expecting things to keep going down. You can't call the bottom, but you can keep buying on the way down. It's like going Costco shopping for stock. :D
 

Jm_

sled dog's bollocks
Jan 14, 2002
19,042
9,701
AK
Remember 2008 when the banks went under? A while bunch of laws we're put in place to keep the banks from getting some of those spots again. The R's got rid of a lot of those laws a few years ago...

Now remember what happened when banks started defaulting? Take that and add a large social limitation occurring in an over-stretched, service economy where 80% of people live paycheck to paycheck.
Fuck yeah, 'murica.