my barrel would melt before i ran out and my kids can sustain themselves off the meat of the losers in the thunderdome. survival is survival, those with food and no protection will lose the food.hope you have smelting and forging capabilities for when you run out. not to mention a ready source of viable black powder.
have your children evolved enough to sustain themselves on brass?
your fault is assuming that this group will exist; at least in large enough numbers to be anything more than a short term option.survival is survival, those with food and no protection will lose the food.
That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane -
Lenny Bruce is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -
world serves its own needs, regardless of your own needs. Feed it up a knock,
speed, grunt no, strength no. Ladder structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Wire in a fire, represent the seven games in a government for
hire and a combat site. Left her, wasn't coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trump, tethered
crop. Look at that low plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
Call me an asshole, but that's AWESOME! Where was that?Great thread.
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You're an asshole.Call me an asshole, but that's AWESOME! Where was that?
I'm not sure you'd have the prettiest right lower quadrant scar afterwards but I'd definitely be able to diagnose and would probably be able to take out said appendix without killing someone in a Mad Max type situation.Recommended reading; The Road by Cormack McCarthy (or the film).
Guns and stockpiles of food are all good, but what will you do if one of your kids gets sick? Know how to remove a septic appendix? A rotten tooth?
Lone survivalists will last a few months at most. Strong resilient communities is where you want to be.
and strong resilient communities will require people with certain specialties that can benefit the survival of the community: doctors, farmers, mechanics, and those trained in the protective arts. also, these strong resilient communities won't pop up overnight, you'll have to survive for a while to be a part of one.Strong resilient communities is where you want to be.
won't be this guy:and strong resilient communities will require people with certain specialties that can benefit the survival of the community: doctors, farmers, mechanics, and those trained in the protective arts. also, these strong resilient communities won't pop up overnight, you'll have to survive for a while to be a part of one.
around here, people kill each other over a bag of chips...imagine when it's a lot more serious and it's not just the underclass losing their minds. someone will be responsible to keep the wolves at bay while we figure out how to continue our society in a more responsible manner.
Uh, actually I do know, thank you very much. Finding supplies might be difficult and some Civil War-era substitutions might have to be made, of course: a shot of whiskey and a piece of wood to bite down upon before amputation, anyone?Anesthetic? Infection control? You might get the appendix out, but would they live past day 3?
Shag your partner and she get's pregnant... know how to deal with complications there?
Life gets very brutal, very quickly.
They won't pop up at all until feudal strong man structures (GUNS!) emerge after a while... and then the slow process begins again (but without the easy access to oil - all gone - we'll be stuck with c18th tech at best).and strong resilient communities will require people with certain specialties that can benefit the survival of the community: doctors, farmers, mechanics, and those trained in the protective arts. also, these strong resilient communities won't pop up overnight, you'll have to survive for a while to be a part of one.
around here, people kill each other over a bag of chips...imagine when it's a lot more serious and it's not just the underclass losing their minds. someone will be responsible to keep the wolves at bay while we figure out how to continue our society in a more responsible manner.
You know how to perform a C-section from which the mother can recover?Uh, actually I do know, thank you very much. Finding supplies might be difficult and some Civil War-era substitutions might have to be made, of course: a shot of whiskey and a piece of wood to bite down upon before amputation, anyone?![]()
I wouldn't limit that to Americans... most of Western (and Eastern for that matter) civilization is commonly noted as being 2 meals away from anarchy.I suppose I am the quintessential American fat slob when I look at this. The reality is that a lot of people can't or won't survive this change. When I was in NO for Katrina, the one thing I know to be absolutely true is that after 3 days without TV and fast food, Americans become downright unfriendly.
This will end in looting.
This will end in pillaging.
This will end in rape.
This will end in chaos and anarchy.
But most of all, this will end.
So why get all worked up about surviving it? If someone were to let's say start playing "global thermonuclear war" tomorrow, I am not going to go underground into my bunker, hoping that maybe I survive the opening volley of blasts of ultra megaton weapons, then I get to hang out in there until a) the radiation dissipates, b) I run out of food or fuel, c) someone gets sick and I don't have the skill or materials to deal with it, or d) I get a hankering for the last Whopper on Earth.
If and when the time comes that we run out of fossil juice, I am pretty sure that the end all be all war to end all wars is coming like a bad Britney Spears movie right there after.
I'm going to go stand on my front porch with my TV remote, my woman and a beer, trying to make the mushroom cloud change colors with the remote until the blast wave hits us and turns us to ash all Terminator 2 style.
I'm not saying I should be doing it if there's any other alternative, but back in the day people could and did do whatever the hell they wanted once they waltzed out the door of med school with an MD plaque in hand. I'm the better part of 3 years past that point.*You know how to perform a C-section from which the mother can recover?
My hat is off to you sir.
Didn't know you were medically trained. Want to move next door to me? I think my general point still stands - most of us (with out the plaque) will be ****ed by anything non-trivial.... 'back in the day' death rates were really high.I'm not saying I should be doing it if there's any other alternative, but back in the day people could and did do whatever the hell they wanted once they waltzed out the door of med school with an MD plaque in hand. I'm the better part of 3 years past that point.*
Oh, and I can shoot a gun, too, as can any and all Joe Schmoes lining up to be allowed to enter the compound in our hypothetical scenario. Pick me, pick me! I'll be sheriff and doctor.
* of course, only one of those post-grad years, my surgery year, is relevant. Radiology hasn't sharpened my uterus-sewing skillsalthough I do suture and tie somewhat regularly when on the interventional service.
Toshi, your a doctor now?Didn't know you were medically trained.
what would have made this thread 10x better would be if there was only two bikes on that big rig.Great thread.
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Yes. I tried to find the most ridiculous shot I could, and almost painted in some huge exhaust clouds.what would have made this thread 10x better would be if there was only two bikes on that big rig.
Only then will you be allowed trails in there.I heading to the hills. I figure I can live in Forest Park when it hits the fan.
the most tedious piece of sh!t ever written.Recommended reading; The Road by Cormack McCarthy (or the film).
Ah, but they won't become cheaper in absolute terms. The whole world will become poorer since so much of our wealth is predicated on the availability of cheap oil. The only way to game the system is to guess correctly and time one's large-scale (nation-scale) purchases of solar and wind fabrication at the tail end of the cheap oil era but before widespread recognition and demand drives prices for the same through the roof.It's not going to be a sudden swift end to the supply of coal, oil, and NG. Supplies will gradually dwindle, which will bring an increase in prices, which will eventually make "more expensive" renewable energy relatively "cheaper"... which will lead all those states to move to renewable sources.
But you knew this already, didn't you?
I think we'll all be sitting pretty for our lifetimes. The catch is that I don't think there's anything we can do on a global scale to make the next few centuries better--the cow is most definitely out of the barn.Toshi, how long do we got?
It's not going to be a sudden swift end to the supply of coal, oil, and NG. Supplies will gradually dwindle, which will bring an increase in prices, which will eventually make "more expensive" renewable energy relatively "cheaper"... which will lead all those states to move to renewable sources.
But you knew this already, didn't you?
Pour in a bit of water and swish it around? Will that work here as well?I heard that it will be a sudden drop off because the last bit will be too hard to get out. Its like getting the last bit of ketchup out of the bottle. Its there but you can't get it.