Looking at what Apple did to their video editing software and the film community outrage against it (some seriously big guns raged on twitter about it) it may be they are going away from their old model of computers for work since casual users give them the most money anywhere. Hell I'll probably buy a mac in a few days for non hardware heavy use (which is my work anyway). If I want to edit vids, make music or play around with CAD I have a PC which was 1/3rd the price and is much more powerful.
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I know a lot of 3D firms that are running buff as hell Linux boxes when they used to be 100% Mac a few years ago.
well, i can have **** load more cores for my renders for way cheaper. Plus OSX>Windows.
exactly.
oh & FCX sucks sweaty fat guy taint. I use Premiere almost exclusively now. plus its integration with AfterEffects is pretty sweet.
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OSX has lagged behind in 64-bit (Adobe CS4 was x64 in Windows - OSX didn't get it until CS5) and GPU accelerated software is ahead by years on Windows. Those are huge advantages in multimedia and scientific/engineering applications especially professional work. Many HPC applications are going to GPU based supercomputers - better bang for buck than buying a faster or more CPUs.
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I have no idea what you just said....but....
we need someone like you in our dept. here at work.
we need someone like you in our dept. here at work.
Well it all depends exactly what you are doing with which software otherwise like jimmydean mentioned big hitters are going to custom Linux setups because then they have exactly the support they are after if they can find the money and talent to do it...I have no idea what you just said....but....
we need someone like you in our dept. here at work.
I'm looking to move, where are you located?
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I don't mess with video or 3D, but I know from a software development standpoint, you get a lot more beef out of your hardware under Linux. Unless you are doing .NET, then you are pretty tied to Winders.
I wouldn't say OSX< Windows. I see macs as good for many soft skills stuff. Especially if you want mobility and not mind paying extra for a small upgrade.
For professional use as TN was talking about 64-bit and GPU accelerated processing can be HUGE advantages - it all depends on what you are doing with what software application. There is no shortage of laptops running either OS so there is no mobility advantage to either choice. There are more hardware, software, and support choices in PC running Windows or Linux - that also means there are more good and bad solutions out there so it takes more effort to find what you are looking for but if you do the work the pay off is there.
Here is an example with an Adobe Premiere (TN mentioned that) with the details: http://www.streaminglearningcenter.com/articles/choosing-a-graphics-card-for-premiere-pro-cs55.html
Sorry I phrased that wrong. I meant for people needing something only for writing, office work, other stuff that don't require power in any sense. So no adobe premiere, no x64 no nothing like that.
Now for work, not hobby I need office, browing and basic media but I still need a cd and an ethernet port but since I ride by bike to work I need a durable yet light package. I may not need the cd and ethernet in a few months but then macbook air is still cheaper than samsung 9 which costs ridiculous 1400$. Not to mention I kinda am getting slowly convinced to OSX usability.
Though feel free to talk me out of it and save me some cash.
There are various ultrabooks (new phrasing for thin-and-lights companies have been making for decades) at a whole bunch of pricepoints. The Air was one of the first as a collaboration with Intel (Apple paid for that privilege) but Intel has most PC manufacturers pushing that initiative now and they are up to the second generation. Asus has the best laptop IPS LCD panel in the industry on their new Zenbook Prime in the 11 an 13" models (tests better than any Mac laptop panel including the retina display and PPI is similar 190 vs 220):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5843/asus-zenbook-prime-ux21a-review
Vizio has some nice matte 1080p IPS ultrabooks, in particular the 15.6" (yes it still light enough to qualify as an ultrabook at just under 4 lbs - more than a half pound lighter than a 13" MacBook Pro). They've just arrived on the market though and Vizio has no record as a PC maker. They also have the Microsoft Windows signature image out of the box (third-party bloatware free Windows):
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405900,00.asp
http://store.vizio.com/ct15a2.html
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The problem is 5-10% differance in performance won't mean much to me while accessories, durability and reliability do. Macs have a decent amount of reviews behind them as well as as huge dweeb community that posts how to fix anything.
Not to mention I can't get Vizio here. Same for that new 15.6'' samsung that is also and ultrabook. I can of course order it from US but the warranty hassle is annoying while apple worldwide warranty is a nice thing. It may be stupid but after some bad experiences I just want to be sure about what I'm buying.
Not to mention I can't get Vizio here. Same for that new 15.6'' samsung that is also and ultrabook. I can of course order it from US but the warranty hassle is annoying while apple worldwide warranty is a nice thing. It may be stupid but after some bad experiences I just want to be sure about what I'm buying.
The first one I mentioned was the Asus which has best screen in the industry and EU availability. PC laptops are much easier to work on than MacBook Pros, especially the latest models - iFixit noted the new models (other than the 13" and non-Retina 15") have the battery and screen glued to the chassis - they cannot be repaired or recycled. They also use non-standard SDDs and RAM modules - the configuration you order is permanent - NO user upgrades period. Reliability between brands yields no huge advantage - they all come from a few various OEM in Taiwan similar to the cycling industry:
Got any other non-existant advantages to tout?
If you want a laptop you can work on you want an Asus Zenbook Prime UX32VD w/the 1080p IPS display - they sell various version in the EU.
Huge community, try a 264 page thread on that series:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/659073-ivy-bridge-zenbook-fhd-ips-screen-ux21a-ux31a-ux32a-ux32vd.html
I'd go for the pro 13 anyway so the batery would be replacable. Looking at Ifixit I can also find ways to replace the disk and ram if it's broken so probably it's doable to upgrade it.
As for reliability I will not belive that table since it is very opposite to my experience. Toshiba laptops were quite popular in my circle of friends and I own one. They may need few repairs if you are super careful with them but if you are not they are the worst, crappiest POS ever produced. I'm a fan of the company because of their TVs so I went for a laptop and I already changed the screen, 2 batheries and the motherboard. So I find that very hard to believe it is a reliable product.
Same for Sony - popular in my ex company yet everyone with a Vaio laptop had major problems with it. I don't know one satisfied vaio user.
What is funny I know a lot satisfied Dell users and it ranks lower than apple.
As for reliability I will not belive that table since it is very opposite to my experience. Toshiba laptops were quite popular in my circle of friends and I own one. They may need few repairs if you are super careful with them but if you are not they are the worst, crappiest POS ever produced. I'm a fan of the company because of their TVs so I went for a laptop and I already changed the screen, 2 batheries and the motherboard. So I find that very hard to believe it is a reliable product.
Same for Sony - popular in my ex company yet everyone with a Vaio laptop had major problems with it. I don't know one satisfied vaio user.
What is funny I know a lot satisfied Dell users and it ranks lower than apple.
You said prior you'd go for the Air so I guess you really don't know what you want and are making lots of incorrect assumptions as you go as I've pointed out.
Its not surprising because those are consumer laptops from a very large population of users via consumer reports - they all pretty much suck and that is the reality (slightly old as Apple dropped the regular MacBook line but older products have a much larger population to draw from). Most companies have a separate line of corporate/professional laptops (Dell has Latitude for example) which are higher quality and have lower failure rates but laptops in general aren't as reliable. They are one of the few items where you should buy an extended warranty (from manufacturer, Squaretrade, Applecare, etc)
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I didn't say I'd go for the air. I said I'm considering it but I need ethernet ports and cd right now. Also what that has to do with Dell and the post you quoted? Are you more drunk than me right now? Also since when experiences are assumptions? Especially when in the end you pointed out it doesn't matter which laptop I buy (which is really stupid when for example even the body can influence durability if you are mobile and careless - hence my hatred for toshiba).
I have a strange feeling you think about laptops too much on paper and too little in real life. Though since I asked for advice let's assume you convinced me and I will desecrate Jobs's grave first thing in the morning.
I have a strange feeling you think about laptops too much on paper and too little in real life. Though since I asked for advice let's assume you convinced me and I will desecrate Jobs's grave first thing in the morning.
I have over a decade in IT supporting everyone from end-users to large companies like Sony and Lehman Brothers (and consumer hardware to big iron hardware like Sun servers running Solaris). I've worked as a system administrator managing thousand of machines (PDAs, smartphones, tablets, laptops, desktops, servers, routers, switches, firewalls, AP, tape backups, printers, DVR security systems, and other IT appliances) for numerous companies for over five years. So your feelings or choosing to ignore a large population of users from Consumer Reports are the things that make little sense. Most often people have HDDs that die (typically laptop design makes little difference), screens that crack from abuse (design helps a little if closed but otherwise not), or people spill things on them (very few are spill rated). Battery problems occasionally occur too from defects or abuse (rarer these days with better battery management technology and chemistry). I've replaced bad laptop motherboards too but those aren't as common unless the model has a defect (One place I was at I replaced 12-16 Toshibas in a 6.5 week period - ****ty consumer model with defective motherboard design)
P.S. My current laptop runs OSX 10.7, Windows 8, and Xubuntu 12.04
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Surfing for free porn is more challenging on an iPad...
That was a selling point for me, my eyes are not the best and I do a lot of reading on line.
That's what's so great about the mmmkey - free porn advice!
Smaller pixels (Retina display) means small harder to read fonts unless you scale content which makes higher resolutions pointless unless you like to hold the device too close to your face or use a magnifying lens to read the screen and don't want to see the pixels as well.
Bummer... Another misspent five hundred bucks
A friend just did the same thing with a Samsung laptop, bought a big screen and wasn't satisfied with having to scale content designed for other resolutions:Bummer... Another misspent five hundred bucks
My response was "ctrl +" and http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Make-the-text-on-your-screen-larger-or-smaller
Autoscaling mobile browsers generally work a bit better than desktop browsers but it varies by browser and you can always pinch-to-zoom (rather than ctrl + or command +).
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I do find the tablet easier to read than my laptop; I shall browse with ignorance!
I had a hard time reading android phone so I don't bother with the web on that anymore.
I had a hard time reading android phone so I don't bother with the web on that anymore.
That is very true. To be honest, I have never been that into or picky about computer stuff until this year.
I started screwing around with my android phone and customizing it for how i want it, and now it works a lot better for my needs. Once I got android 4.0 on my phone and was able to run the Chrome browser, it made using the web on my phone way better. Then I killed all the bloatware apps, Installed Apex launcher, Go SMS Pro, ICS+ camera etc.... and now everything works great. The only problem is that I like the setup so much now I want to buy a Nexus 7 too. All this coming from a guy who was perfectly happy on a windows xp until the end of 2011.
Babysitting equipment and users isn't that great. High resolution on a small display is useless for typical desktop tasks - scaling ruins it, native is the way to go. 4K is next but useless on small displays and the bandwidth required would be huge.
P.S. Upgrade takes forever - 1 hr installation after 4GB+ download on latest 2012 hardware for cougar version 3 (Apple fails at naming - puma, panther, and mountain lion are all the same animal)
Latest Ubuntu ISO - 700 MB
iPhoto UPDATE 1GB ?!?! Picasa for OSX 30MB - talk about bloatware
P.S. Upgrade takes forever - 1 hr installation after 4GB+ download on latest 2012 hardware for cougar version 3 (Apple fails at naming - puma, panther, and mountain lion are all the same animal)
Latest Ubuntu ISO - 700 MB
iPhoto UPDATE 1GB ?!?! Picasa for OSX 30MB - talk about bloatware
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On the plus side the batter does last as long as advertised - I charge about every 5 days.
Since this thread has gone a fair way off track, I was wondering if Apple has ever had a manufacturing facility or have they always had other companies do their manufacturing?
I don't really know much about Apple, my family would probably disown me if I went out and purchased a shiny iProduct, I like the stuff but I don't own a fixie so I'm not cool enough to own.
I don't really know much about Apple, my family would probably disown me if I went out and purchased a shiny iProduct, I like the stuff but I don't own a fixie so I'm not cool enough to own.
Im running it at close to native.
And one hour install? guess your not using ssds
mine took about 15 minutes.
like GE...experts in outsourcing.
Yes, they have. One was in Fountain, Colorado and another was in Sacramento. The fountain plant was sold to another tech firm in 1996, and the one in Sacramento was closed in 2004.