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Yep.....and also what driver (hex) works more adequately in lower grade and hardness steels which inevitably is something that one encounters when using various drivers????
For that matter, could do without socket cap head screws on any vehicle dirt related. If it weren't for the fact that allen key multi tools are lighter to carry, I'd want everything to be a flanged hex head so nothing could get filled with dirt.
I usually grab a torx bit whenever I round an Allen bolt. The little flanges have a better purchase on the key hole.It's like in order to get some work done I need a PC and a Mac. Eff that.
The worst is when the bolt is small and is recessed and you can't tell what kind of bolt it is. Sometimes a hex works on a torx, but you didn't know it was a torx. And vice versa.
Whoops! Hope I didn't ruin anything!
This is why we can't have nice things!
Yes Because everything on a bike needs as many ugga duggas as possible. I'd much rather break a stem/handlebar/seat clamp while riding than strip the head on a $0.32 screw.
Torque specs mean fuck all on dirt covered threads with questionable allowables in the material with unknown thread engagement, grease/patchlock and a less than perfectly calibrated torque wrench.
Haha, I don’t even run the bars but I think I did see them on your bike.
Back in my shop days, a customer saw me working on his bike without a torque wrench. He made a fuss, and my boss just told him, totally deadpan, that "I sent him in for calibration last week".
Or bolts with a hex on the inside and out.... some German motorcycles have some fasteners this way.
Nicolai does that on their axles.
I rode a BMW GS across Alaska this summer. It pissed me off pretty good that there were ONLY Torx-head bolts on the bike. I could see being stuck somewhere on the Denali Highway trying to get a lever re-mounted with a bear chasing me in circles around the bike as I wait for someone to drive from 6 hours away with a fucking Torx set.
hey @jackalope, remember what I said about road being way more popular than mountain? yea.
i think we should get into the business of high end road bike upgrades.
I now regret even questioning this unfortunate reality.
Does Rapha make artisanal hypodermic needles for pumpkin spice latte EPO injections? If not, times-ah-wastin...
Naw, that's just what you need if you are a cyclist touring the roads in Alaska...for the cars.
Nah, can't improve on the Profile Helm stem that I have now, it's perfect, and it's purple.
I remember a buddy who acquired himself a torque wrench that was hopelessly out of calibration and blindly following it despite alarm bell inducing levels of torque required to make it click. We had to use screw extractors to remove snapped 888 crown bolts on two bikes he'd used it on. I still remember him throwing it across the room after we compared it to a recently calibrated torque wrench haha.
The nice thing about beam style torque wrenches is you don't need to worry about calibration as long as it's zeroed.
Gotta make the name blatantly ridiculous, like MakeYourOwn "MYO"
Majority of the load in the faceplate comes from hoop stress from tightening the fasteners. 4 fasteners that can all more or less suspend the mass of a car in tension, going to about half of their load capacity (as a guess) versus....you. So two cars against the highest energy input you can put into a set of bars. I'm betting the bolts and the cross section of the aluminum still wins, even if you're a 300lb potato.
