Is this compared to the Swedish price of the Nomad?
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We got 5 weeks of paid vacation here. FWIW
Yes, which is about 11000usd at today's rate
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It's quickly negated by a mortgage and 2 kids in daycareDamn boys! Check out the monocle on this guy.
Our Australian government recently changed the law to apply our sales tax to all purchases delivered from overseas (used to be exempt under $1000AUD). Add to that Shimano, SRAM and a few other companies cracking down on Chainreaction and other big shops shipping to other markets and we're back to early 1990's levels of price gouging.
A few years ago Shimano parts were 2.5 times the CRC listed price in Australia. Saint cranks were $700 recommended retail here.
On top of that, the cost of Australian import duty + the added cost of importers adding another step to the supply chain means its actually cheaper to fly overseas to buy frames and bikes, but then warranty support is nil.
That is a humorous part of the Merican life.
Everyone in other countries thinks we super rich, but they don't know how much you pay for everything, housing, insurance, student loans, porn.
Choices.
crazy cheap cost of living. for comparison, the "poverty line" here in canada is deemed to be around $2k/mo. that said, the current average rental price for a 1 bed appt here in vancouver is also $2k / mo.
that said, i feel you re: the wide disparity between your earning potential & the cost of premium (fancy bike) goods there. the (dirt cheap) prices of the peruvian marino bikes exemplifies said disparity. from our perspective, it's amazing that he makes any $$.
I blame you and all the fancy, big spending, debt incurring, washing your expensive cars every day types for this situation. You're the reason bikes are so expensive
What is really stupid is that you can buy Made in Canada parts out of the USA shipped back to Canada, taxes paid and it still be less than the same part bought domestically before taxes and shipping. (if required)
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Top shelf Nomad: USD 9500 x 1.5 (50% import tax) x 43 ARS per dollar = 612,750 pesos, or 10 months of my net monthly income. And that's before shipping charges.
To put it in perspective, the rent of a two-bedroom apartment is about 8-10 k pesos.
EDIT: I made a mistake with regards to the minimum wage to avoid poverty down here, USD 325 is the minimum income to avoid being indigent.
The tax is the worst part.
I purchased a Transition TR450 from Dunbar years ago and totally skipped out on that added 15 percent.....which is fuckin a lot.
We have it bad, but I think a few items are getting better. North Shore Billet makes good chain rings and hangers and will ship for free. Same with OneUp.
If only the few bike distributors weren't such dickbags.
i’m a murican...haven’t bought a new complete bike since...ummm...2001? totally comfy with that, and i have the nomad I want (bought lightly used frame, swapped many parts). fuck buying whole new bikes.
NSB - yup they make some nice stuff, including some bit harder to find things like riser blocks for direct mount stems, and one of my favorite bits of bling (especially after you somehow crack the stock plastic one) the CNC anodized front brake cable guide.
And with regard to the distributors such as those dicks at places like Lambert - ya I agree - Especially after crap like that letter they sent out lambasting RF for daring to sell a limited selection of their low line stuff direct to MEC. Fuck. Them.
Agree on the price, but that brand isn’t really part of the bike industry... more like yuppie tech bro clothing and gear.
I think Pinbike is trolling a bit by posting that press release.
I think Pinbike is trolling a bit by posting that press release.
I dunno – maybe so, but I see things increasingly headed that direction.
Damn, that's our weekly grocery bill.
It used to be twice as much, before the actual government destroyed the internal market via a mega devaluation that's still ongoing...
I'm on the same time scale as @Happymtb.fr , but I too have a mortgage and 2 kids. Luckily for me, I have no desire to own the XX1 Nomad.
Pro tips: 1. Work in bike industry (bonus points for GF who also works in bike industry).
2. Don't have kids.
Ride nice bikes a lot. (Well, not this week. I'm in an airport on the way to NAHBS.)
2. Don't have kids.
Ride nice bikes a lot. (Well, not this week. I'm in an airport on the way to NAHBS.)
Re: #2. Idk. My son turned 4 last week and he was stoked as shit to get a new bike for his birthday.
not to wave the dad flag too aggressively, but riding bikes / sharing my passion of mountain bicycling w/ my progeny more than makes up for the fiscal sacrifices (ie, not always rocking bleeding edge superbikes) i've had to make. so very cool. that said, i also respect other's choice not to procreate; all is good.
And then, when the kids are grown and gone, you can start a bike company and get revenge. It would cost me a year's salary to buy a new bike, but I don't have to.
wait, this isnt the bigmac index 
for anyone that follows the business side of things..... mavic sold off from Amer, no longer affiliated with Enve.
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2019/03/15/amer-sells-mavic-regent-us-private-equity-firm#.XIu0VyhKhaQ
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2019/03/15/amer-sells-mavic-regent-us-private-equity-firm#.XIu0VyhKhaQ
It’s pretty nuts how much market share Mavic has lost in the last 10 years.
yup. i also find it interesting how with certain bike companies, it's almost like a shell game of who actually owns them now. out of curiosity i looked up the company that bought mavic, no other cycling related brands. nothing even outdoor related.
Clementz and Dailly have been seen with unbranded carbon rims, maybe they are from Mavic? Not quite sure about that since both seems to have Sram as their main sponsors...
I'm around 4 weeks.
But I have unlimited vacation.
And I have no debt (other than a nearly-gone mortgage).
That said, I'm still gonna bitch about my job, because it fucking sucks.
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