Tiger Kills in SF Zoo
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Or #79.Um like post #5 in this thread.
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2777797&postcount=79
Deja vu all over again.
That'd be my guess.
He probably got drunk, opened the gate, and only then realized that this was a cat that could eat HIM.
The one shining gem in this thread.
Easy there. I just thought it was worded funny. The cops did just fine.you've got it all figured out eh? did you ever think that maybe they were trying to get the tiger away from the victim so they could take a less risky shot? i think it said somewhere that they were using shotguns which means that there's a good chance they were using buck shot. buck shot has about an 18" spread at 25 yards, not exactly a surgical weapon. i would have done the same thing, even if the cat didn't stop attacking the dude it would have at least paused to see what the commotion was which would allow a better chance for a clear shot.
but as usual, cops can never do the right thing in hindsight right?if they shoot they kill a rare animal. if they try and get a clean shot by yelling at the beast they're taking too long.
Yayhoo news/AP is notorious for leaving out critical details like that and just throwing a bunch of crap together that will come out sounding flat stupid.
So you do a little flame baiting, get the response you were looking for then snivel about it? That's awesome.
I'm curious to see who they crucify over this, that tidbit about the zoo being sighted about these enclosures before is interesting.
Everyone is choosing words carefully but follow-up investigations are showing (a) the wall surrounding the enclosure is probably shorter than it should be; and (b) a bloody shoe was found inside or near the enclosure, indicating what is technically referred to as "shenanigans" (some kind of taunting and perhaps someone dangling a limb). Interesting that the enclosure was built in 1940.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/27/MNFFU5G80.DTL&tsp=1
I think overpopulation is a real problem on a global scale. At the very least it is a quality of life issue for future generations. I don't understand what some of you seem to be saying: That it's not a problem until we've sucked the entire planet completely dry and the human race is wiped out. Isn't that a little too late to seek a solution?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/27/MNFFU5G80.DTL&tsp=1
I think overpopulation is a real problem on a global scale. At the very least it is a quality of life issue for future generations. I don't understand what some of you seem to be saying: That it's not a problem until we've sucked the entire planet completely dry and the human race is wiped out. Isn't that a little too late to seek a solution?
Overpopulation is its own solution.
You seem to looking at from a pure ecolological/darwinian/passive perspective and ignoring the impact of the "solution" on the human race.
Do you think we should seek solutions to our environmental problems (a symptom of overpopulation) or just wait until the planet fixes itself?
Sure, eventually we'll all die or the planet will explode or dry up and we're all screwed anyway so why try to stop it? Let nature take its course right?
I dunno, I guess I'm less willing to give up on civilization than you.
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I have always found tigers fascinating ever since I read the book
"Tiger Attack" by Claude Balls.
"Tiger Attack" by Claude Balls.
Sounds painful....
Update:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/28/MN7RU5I8P.DTL&tsp=1
For whatever reason the other kids are not cooperating. Not sure if I would act any different but it gives the impression they are hiding something.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/28/MN7RU5I8P.DTL&tsp=1
For whatever reason the other kids are not cooperating. Not sure if I would act any different but it gives the impression they are hiding something.
Imagine that, another law suit. How much do you think they'll get from the zoo? $2 million?
"Hold my beer, watch this!"
Yah maybe they were throwing stuff at the tiger and the tiger finally had a good reason to jump over the short walls
In which case the authorities should have let her finish her meal.
The whole thing stinks. A kid is dead, a tiger is dead, the other cats are in small cages (as if a "grotto" wasn't bad enough), and the city or the zoo or both will probably get sued, so there is bound to be lots of finger pointing and blame. Yay.
My speculation based on what I've read in the news the past couple days:
Older brother (douche) hops over short fence and dangles leg just below the top of the wall. This would put his foot around 10' from the bottom of the moat.
(why the fvck do they call it a moat when there is no water in it?)
Tatiana happens to be hungry and/or territorial and most likely pissed off that she lives in SF and not in a marsh somewhere in Asia. Sees douche dangling leg. Loses temper, decides to remind Human how kickass a TIGER is.
Tatiana runs, leaps and just catches the foot/leg and uses the older douche to scale the rest of the wall. Douche has one leg still on the other side of the fence so he is anchored enough for the tiger to use him as a bloody climbing rope.
Possible? Yes.
If a tiger could leap up to a dude on the back of an elephant, snatching a douche leg at around 10' up is no prob. Hell, I could probably do it.
Tatiana continues to fvck up the older douche.
17 year old future corpse tries to help. Younger brother douche is already running away.
17 year old realizes too late that he will never hear the Survivor song "The Eye of the Tiger" again when Tatiana turns on him.
Older douche (now bloody) runs after younger douche.
Tatiana goes tiger on 17 year old's throat.
Tatiana follows the blood trail (and most likely a scent trail of Axe body spray) right to where the douche brothers are.
Tatiana starts fvcking up the younger douche.
Police come and interfere with last minute 2007 Darwin Award proceedings by shooting Tatiana.
Older brother (douche) hops over short fence and dangles leg just below the top of the wall. This would put his foot around 10' from the bottom of the moat.
(why the fvck do they call it a moat when there is no water in it?)
Tatiana happens to be hungry and/or territorial and most likely pissed off that she lives in SF and not in a marsh somewhere in Asia. Sees douche dangling leg. Loses temper, decides to remind Human how kickass a TIGER is.
Tatiana runs, leaps and just catches the foot/leg and uses the older douche to scale the rest of the wall. Douche has one leg still on the other side of the fence so he is anchored enough for the tiger to use him as a bloody climbing rope.
Possible? Yes.
Tatiana continues to fvck up the older douche.
17 year old future corpse tries to help. Younger brother douche is already running away.
17 year old realizes too late that he will never hear the Survivor song "The Eye of the Tiger" again when Tatiana turns on him.
Older douche (now bloody) runs after younger douche.
Tatiana goes tiger on 17 year old's throat.
Tatiana follows the blood trail (and most likely a scent trail of Axe body spray) right to where the douche brothers are.
Tatiana starts fvcking up the younger douche.
Police come and interfere with last minute 2007 Darwin Award proceedings by shooting Tatiana.
Nice forensic analysis.
Im reading this right now as my cat is sitting in my lap.
...she would kill me in a second if she thought she could. Cats are ****ing mean.
...she would kill me in a second if she thought she could. Cats are ****ing mean.
Yeah, I allus figured that a big cat would make the absolute best burglar alarm ever. Said burglar would be alarmed for a very short time.
Yeah either trespassing on her territory or he sprayed over the fence. They should have had him neutered
f***ing.
I brought my cat outside one day and another cat was in our yard.
"Hey, look - a friend. Go say hi."
I went to set her down and it was like dropping a nitro-burning funny car. She shot after the other cat so fvcking fast I couldn't believe it. Played it totally cool before I set her down too. No indication of hostility. She chased the other cat for half a block while swatting at it in mid-run.
In Cambridge I watched my Siamese cat run screaming on his hind legs, front paws in the air and claws out, while chasing a German Shepherd out of the yard.
Sanchez and Patrick get into it on occasion. Typically the one being ****ed with gets more pissed and ends up chasing the other off. The cat never bleeds though, unlike the dog.
She could be the new Tiger Lady.
H8R, we're all just speculating. I have a similar idea but based on this graphic I don't see how he's got one foot on the safe side of the fence and can have anything dangling below. I expect you are right about the territorial issue - that cat's only got a small space and will probably protect it fiercely.
How about: "Douche climbs fence and hangs leg over, taunting. Cat gets a hold of foot or dangling leg. 17 year old future corpse and douche's brother hop the fence and try to help, but in the process of dragging or holding their buddy they help pull the tiger out, or at least turn the guy into the "bloody ladder," and the tiger is free."
How about: "Douche climbs fence and hangs leg over, taunting. Cat gets a hold of foot or dangling leg. 17 year old future corpse and douche's brother hop the fence and try to help, but in the process of dragging or holding their buddy they help pull the tiger out, or at least turn the guy into the "bloody ladder," and the tiger is free."
That explains it - the zoo is run by pinkbike members, "Man that drop was huge, at least 20 ft dude"
Jeebus, a siberian tiger standing up on it's hind legs has got to be a good eight feet tall. A motivated, pissed off tiger shouldn't have much of a problem hopping up that grotto wall.
Zoo officials clearly didn't read the proper materials before designing the enclosure.
If the "moat" has an inclined slope on the tiger side and not a drop like I was picturing, then the tiger basically has a running start headed downhill.
Then a 12' jump? Are you kidding? This is a TIGER. No fvcking problem.
Our cat used to get on top of our bedroom door when it was about 4 months old.
A cat just needs to get a couple claws onto the ledge then it can yank itself up.
