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jimmydean

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There was only 2 times where Anderson looked hurt. He took a lot of shots and yet even in the 5th he was bouncing. Yes, Chael was dominating, but I don't think he actually hurt him at all. Crazy fight.
 

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Excellent main event. Like people have said, Silva took very little damage for the amount of strikes sonnen landed. Very calm and collected on the ground. The second i saw silvas leg jump up on sonnen shoulder i turned to my friend and said "fight's over"....
 

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Me and my neighbor had a big party, and I always enjoy seeing what others think of the UFC.

My neighbor, who hosted the party, had never seen a UFC fight, but he picked up most of the basics, but it must have been especially shocking to see a triangle submission, which is not exactly a common sight.

I especially enjoyed the expression from my gay friend during the weigh-ins. He seemed to enjoy really buff guys stripping down to their tighty-whiteys and then going face-to-face.

I got into a screaming match with a total stranger at the end of the Silva fight. We were like yelling at each other from opposite sides of the TV. We shook hands and hugged after the replay showed Sonnen tapping out.

But the most interesting discussion was with a girl who had actually missed the fight. She asked if the fights were fixed, and in my description of like Nelson-Dos Santos and Silva-Sonnen, it was like a WWE matchup in its unbelievability.
 
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silva let sonnen think he was winning, then subbed him in the last round. i think he did it to get back at sonnen making fun of the nog bros giving him his black belt
 

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Good fights. I knew Silva would do it. Just didn't know he was going to be controlled for so long before he decided he was done with it.
 

golgiaparatus

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Good fights. I knew Silva would do it. Just didn't know he was going to be controlled for so long before he decided he was done with it.
Not bad for a guy with brok'd ribs.

Good on Huges for getting the win again, he'll probably work his way back to GSP eventually, but I don't think he can beat him. COol that guida won as well. The roy sideshow was something so see. JDS 140 strikes in 3 rounds... damn.

I kind of could give a crap about the rest of the card.

On the Roy thing... I bet he won't cut weight until he gets beat 3-4 times and Dana threatens to cut him unless he drops to LHW. Maybe he can get sponsored by Dexatrim and Subway.
 

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Pretty crazy that he had broken ribs. I just read that a minute ago. It was nice to see him submit Chael after all of the crap he was talkng about the black belt.

Man, Roy can take some shots. That was a boxing clinic fo sho. Don't know that Dos Santos is ready for a Brock fight or Cain fight though.

Man, did you hear when Stephan Struve was fighting and the doctor said, "If you have a good surgeon you'll be fine"? Talking about his lip. Ouch.

I didn't even watch the Fitch fight. He sucks at finishing fights. I get bored with pro fighters that can't finish guys when they're laying on them the whole fight.
 

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Does anywhere online ever re-air the fights after the pay per view has made it's money? I want to watch the Hughes and Silva matches.

And maybe this gay guy wrestling with Sanjuro in some photoshopped madness.
 

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Silva got fight of the night and sub of the night for a total of $120K in bonuses alone!

<edit> Sonnen got $60k for his half of the fight of the night, Silva should have shared the sub bonus, too since it was his neck :rofl:
 
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Upcoming fights:

(1) James Big Mouth Tony vs Captain America
(2) BJ vs Frankie Eyebrow Groomer Edgar
(3) Maynard vs Elbows McGee

My predictions:

(1) Couture will try to dirty box Tony but will give that up once he realizes that Tony has deadly hands in close quarters. Couture will take it to the ground, Tony's flabby ass will gas out and he'll either get submitted or mounted and wont be able to defend himself.

(2) Tough to call... I think Edgar is BJ's kriptonite thogh. Too fast for his boxing, and too good of a wrestler for BJ to take down. I see another decision going to Edgar.

(3) Another tough call. Maynard can't stand and exchange with Florian, he thinks he can, but he'll give that up in the first round. He'll take it to the ground eventually and overpower Kenny. I think it will be an ugly victory for Gray.
 
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jimmydean

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If Randy can keep from getting KO'ed, then I agree, it will go to the ground and Tony will have no idea what to do from there. I would love to see Randy KO Tony, though.

I think BJ might have lost his edge a few years ago, but avenging the loss might put him back in it. Edger is young, fast, and skilled, I don't think BJ can overcome that, but I don't know if Edger can finish him, either.

KenFlo was very impressive ever since he came off the show, but after he lost to BJ, I wonder how much of it is the class. Gray is a much better wrestler and has a lot more power, but Kenny's elbows are nasty. I would like to see Gray win it, though. Home town boy and all.
 

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If Randy can keep from getting KO'ed, then I agree, it will go to the ground and Tony will have no idea what to do from there. I would love to see Randy KO Tony, though.

I think BJ might have lost his edge a few years ago, but avenging the loss might put him back in it. Edger is young, fast, and skilled, I don't think BJ can overcome that, but I don't know if Edger can finish him, either.

KenFlo was very impressive ever since he came off the show, but after he lost to BJ, I wonder how much of it is the class. Gray is a much better wrestler and has a lot more power, but Kenny's elbows are nasty. I would like to see Gray win it, though. Home town boy and all.
1) I'm thinking randy will try and shoot almost immediately. He's a gamer for sure, but I think he's smarter than that to try and box with toney. I see almost an immediate shot, wear him out, maybe take him down, then later on stand an bang after he's tired. I can't forsee anyone wanting to stand up against a boxer...it's a bit like trying to take a BJJ black belt down even though that's his only game.

2). It depends which BJ Peen we see...will he be serious and train, or has he been sitting around bitching about GSP? He seems to be very hit or miss...if Edgar can hang until the third round, Peen might be gassed. I don't think we'll see the pro-Peen tonight, I just don't feel like he'll take the fight seriously...but I'm sure we'll see something about grease or cheating or eye gouge or crying next week.

3) I'm going for Kenflo here...hometown match....he's improved immensely since the show. I actually think I saw him at a SoBo gym one time. Should be a good match.
 

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I watched a bunch of BJJ practitioners vs strikers vids, and even when they ate a punch, they still were able to grapple well enough to take their opponent and the fight was over.

I watched "Countdown to UFC" last night, and Toney is way out of shape and it was fairly obvious that his MMA trainer was handing out a total spin job when complimenting him.

Unless Randy is out of shape, there is no fight.
 

Leppah

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Randy is never out of shape.

Are they fighting in HW or LHW? Toney looks like a fat piece of sh!t. I can't imagine him going full on for a 5 minute round. Aren't boxing rounds 3 minutes long?

I'm thinking Randy will come in, use lots of head movement, try a leg kick or two just to confuse Toney, then shoot in. If he shoots in immediately, he risks eating an uppercut. Toney is assuming that Randy will shoot in right off the bat. I'm thinking Randy is going to mix things up for a minute, then take it to the floor. Toney isn't going to like laying there on his back getting punched, so he'll roll over and give him his back. It'll be a first round fight. If it goes to the second round, Randy can lose the fight since it'll start back on the feet.

BJ and Edgar. Interesting. BJ is the king in 155 for BJJ. Edgar is scrappy as hell and fit as hell. I think BJ has better weapons for the fight. He can knock people out, he has precise hands, and his ground game is insane. Edgar is really good, but i think he is going to lose. I'd like to see him win, but i don't think it'll happen. If he can make it to the third round, then he can wear BJ out and win a decision. But i think BJ is going to try finishing by the second round.

I hope Kflo wins this fight. I see him winning by rear naked choke. I'm just hoping they don't both do a ton of back pedaling the whole fight.

Is this the card with Diaz vs. Davis?
 

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Yeah Nate Diaz is fighting.

I'm not watching because of Anderson Silva hangover, but this looks like a good card, besides the clown show.
 

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So TONEY weighed in at a svelte 237 ... LOL. I dont know what he is thinking for a guy that has been talking soooo much trash.

This is starting to look like the freak show side attraction Dana White didnt want.

COUTURE - 1st round via RAPE!SPIT
 

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I like Toney's "I ain't trying to be no wrestler, I ain't no jiu-jitsu guy, I don't kick, I ain't no girl.".

When he gets kicked in the leg, then taken to the grown, smacked around, then submitted, it ain't a girl doing it.
 

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Well, I guess UFC is STILL NOT GAY!

BOSTON &#8211; As almost everyone expected, mixed martial arts legend Randy Couture dominated and then defeated boxer James Toney at UFC 118, causing the heavyweight boxing champion to tap out with an arm triangle that choked Toney in 3:19 of the first round.
 

Leppah

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Coutures a beast...
I hope Tony taps round one.

I just read up on the fights. Sounds like Toney did tap in round 1. Couture wasted no time going in for the side choke.

Also sounds like Edgar put a whoopin on BJ. I can't believe he ended up winning again. I thought for sure that BJ would've been on fire coming into this fight. Guess Edgar is just too damn fast for him.

Diaz got fight of the night. I'd like to see that fight. I guess he beat the piss out of Marcus and ended up choking him unconscious in round three.
 

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Randy went in for the shoot before Tony could even blink.
Watch the fights on http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/ if you dont have acces to PPV...
You can stream most UFC fights and some Strikeforce and Dream stuff too.
Yeah, a clinic by Couture.

15 seconds before a basic takedown.
2 minutes of ground-n-pound.
Then an arm triangle which most MMA fighters could easily defend against.
 

Leppah

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Ah poo. Looks like a few of the vids have been removed already. I wanted to watch Toney lose, but the vid is gone.

Diaz worked Davis over pretty easily. Davis shouldn't have fought Diaz's fight. I guess you can't really take Diaz down though. He'd lose there too.
 

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Enjoyed the Diaz and Edgar fights. Diaz just brutalized Davis. Edgar was impressive.



Good to see Coulture whip Toney, though it was a joke of a fight. I think Toney only threw two punches the whole fight, and they were gut shots while Coulture was pounding on him.

Timber......never take a boxer to a wrestling match.
 

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All came together just as I expected... except for Kflow... where the hell was his badass striking that he had at his last fight. I don't get how he absolutely destroys some people and then comes out and looks totally lame against others.

I hope Tony gets a few more fights in the UFC. That was an impossible test for him... Dana wanted to make damn sure he lost... okay done. Now lets see him against some one that will decimate him in a different way. Crocop comes to mind.

EDIT: I take it back... I predicted that Gray would win in ugly fashion... haha... 3 for 3.
 
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Leppah

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Ah, nice gifs.

yeah, pretty weird how KFLO can do so good against certain guys, but totally suck against others. I think he gets in his own head and plays mind games against himself. He's a really smart fighter and commentator. Maybe that's his problem. Maybe he thinks about it all too much and ends up doing nothing because he doesn't want to take too many or any chances. I think that's what happens to Mir against those big boys. He's a really smart fighter, but i think he was trying to buy his time too much instead of panicking and getting the eff out of the position he was in.

Gray and Edgar doesn't really draw much interest from me. Wrestling works in mma, but it's not too exciting to watch. Especially when both of the fighters win most of their fights by letting them go to decision.
 

golgiaparatus

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Ah, nice gifs.

yeah, pretty weird how KFLO can do so good against certain guys, but totally suck against others. I think he gets in his own head and plays mind games against himself. He's a really smart fighter and commentator. Maybe that's his problem. Maybe he thinks about it all too much and ends up doing nothing because he doesn't want to take too many or any chances. I think that's what happens to Mir against those big boys. He's a really smart fighter, but i think he was trying to buy his time too much instead of panicking and getting the eff out of the position he was in.

Gray and Edgar doesn't really draw much interest from me. Wrestling works in mma, but it's not too exciting to watch. Especially when both of the fighters win most of their fights by letting them go to decision.
Agree'd on Kflow... as for Mir, I think it's a matchup thing. He does crappy against people that can either out strike or out wrestle him because he has no takedown skills to force them to play in his world...

He can standup with most anyone, but if he's outmatched on the feet he can't take it to the ground. With wrestlers he can out strike them so they shoot on him... but then he cant get them on their back.

If mir had solid shooting skills he'd be twice the fighter that he is IMO.
 

Kevin

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Mir is a submission specialist, one of the best in the game imo.
But as said above, hes not allround enough to be the champ.
Love seeing him fight though and cant wait to see him fight CroCop.
CroCops recent fights didnt really impress me so props if he beats Mir.

I wouldnt bet on it tho...
 

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Mir is a submission specialist, one of the best in the game imo.
But as said above, hes not allround enough to be the champ.
Love seeing him fight though and cant wait to see him fight CroCop.
CroCops recent fights didnt really impress me so props if he beats Mir.

I wouldnt bet on it tho...
CroCop was good in the ring, he hasn't done much in the cage other than get schooled. I think he's a growing example of older fighters who don't have the skills of the younger fighters. Rampage, Chuck Liddell, Cotoure, guys who were so damn good at one thing that it was enough. But so many dudes come up now trainning all sorts of things that they get good enough at a few to be able to show some differnet looks.
 
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Kevin

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True indeed. I saw the El Turk and Dos Santos fights and was thinking he should have stayed at home...
MMA Fighters should know when its their time to stop, CroCop has been over his prime for quite some time now and I dont think he should still be fighting in the UFC, lets see if he can prove me wrong...
 

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Crocop is going to lose. Mir will take him to the ground and submit him. Crocop's offense isn't nearly what it used to be. He used to do pretty well against the grapplers because he had a good defense and a good scramble in his day. That day is long gone. Same with Big Nog's days. His best days are long gone.
The sport is progressing, but some guys aren't going with it. Quinton, Crocop, Couture, Chuck, Hughes (he did good in his last one though), Wand, just to name a few that come to mind.
 

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Crocop is going to lose. Mir will take him to the ground and submit him. Crocop's offense isn't nearly what it used to be. He used to do pretty well against the grapplers because he had a good defense and a good scramble in his day. That day is long gone. Same with Big Nog's days. His best days are long gone.
The sport is progressing, but some guys aren't going with it. Quinton, Crocop, Couture, Chuck, Hughes (he did good in his last one though), Wand, just to name a few that come to mind.
Gonna have to disagree with you on the mir Crocop matchup... I'm not certain that Mir is going to win. If it goes to the ground, he'll certainly win. But Mir is overconfident with his striking and he's been standing up a lot lately. I think he might try to stand with Crocop.

Totally agreed one Quinton, Chuck, Crocop, Wand thing. None of those guys have advanced their game... and are being left behind by this new generation. Couture and Hughes really haven't been left behind. I don't really see that many holes in Couture's game and I don't think Hughes has fallen behind really, I just think there are a lot more good wrestlers out there now so he's not dominating like he once did.