I'm a graphic designer and I don't do web, but I got talked into putting some graphics together for a friends site. The problem is that he's hooked up with this Netobjects template crap, yet he wants Flash animation, videos, sound etc. Post some very well designed web site links so I can show him the best that's out there, and then get him to go to a site designer. apple.com is one of my faves for cleanliness, typography and ease of use. Also, if you're a professional and interested in this project, lemme know.
Well Designed Web Sites
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www.spinsite.com does complete designs for $249.00 and then $12.95 a month for hosting after that. The site can have videos, flash, etc. You provide the content and they build it for you.
http://www.coolhomepages.com/ Some good stuff in there, but it's really all about taste in terms of what looks good and what doesn't.
Check here: http://coolhomepages.com/
They have a good cross section of everything. NetObjects sucks. I designed 2 sites with it and actually found a couple of bugs in the app.
They have a good cross section of everything. NetObjects sucks. I designed 2 sites with it and actually found a couple of bugs in the app.
Beat me to it!jacksonpt said:
Friends don't let friends do Flash.
I hate that crap.
Here is an example of a completely worthless website:
http://www.hp.com/
I hate that crap.
Here is an example of a completely worthless website:
http://www.hp.com/
Check last years Webby winners. Webbys are international awards honoring excellence in Web design, creativity, usability and functionality. Seems to be quite a bit of flash in there though.
There's also a list of good designs at Web Design from Scratch.
There's also a list of good designs at Web Design from Scratch.
Flash is great if done correctly. If there is a "skip intro" link, that should be a sign that there is no point to the intro, so why have it in the first place?
What type of site is this? What's his target audience? Different types of sites can use/require different designs and layouts, i.e. a designer's portfolio site can be much different than a corporation's site, yet both can be considered well designed. Personally, I think my personal portolio site is well designed, but it wouldn't work as a corporate site. Apple's site is very well designed, but it would be pretty boring as a site to promote a movie.stinkyboy said:
Show me great Flash. I want to see this.jimmydean said:
And I get really pi$$ed when there's a dumb Flash intro with no "Skip" option.
http://www.carstuckgirls.com/BikeGeek said:
From the webby awards. work safe... but so stupid it's funny
LOL! I didn't even look at the "Weird" category.DVNT said:
It's a VW resto and repair shop called VW Island. The owner's got this whole tropical island theme going, so it can/should be a casual and fun site with an old bug or bus "surfing" around.pixelninja said:
Some cheesy T-shirt art I did for him:
SkaredShtles said:Friends don't let friends do Flash.
I hate that crap.
Here is an example of a completely worthless website:
http://www.hp.com/
And another:
www.sunrims.com :nonono:
http://www.shopcomposition.com/SkaredShtles said:
http://www.hobartdesign.com/SkaredShtles said:Show me great Flash. I want to see this.
And I get really pi$$ed when there's a dumb Flash intro with no "Skip" option.
I have to say - not bad. But those frikkin' popup menus with the tiny type and terrible colors make my eyes hurt.Full Trucker said:
Would've been better if they'd just stuck to something simple.
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That's actually a very well done site.jacksonpt said:
SkaredShtles said:Friends don't let friends do Flash.
I hate that crap.
Here is an example of a completely worthless website:
http://www.hp.com/
Flash sucks in most of its common usages.
Fraser is a great designer. Transcendmagazine.com is probably the best site in the bike biz.
http://www.contourcase.com/SkaredShtles said:
I wouldn't call it great, but at least it's not abysmal.stinkyboy said:
Surfing $hitloads of websites.stinkyboy said:Your design expertise consists of ?
In other words: nothing.
I agree with this comment as well, major props to him and an eye for clean designBeerDemon said:
Dont count yourself out either your stuff is really well done, one of my favorite designs i have seen on the web
www.thodyconsulting.com
This statement is exactly what is wrong with the industry. A web site is supposed to be a business tool, not an entry in an art contest. The first question that needs to be asked is "how will the site increase sales for our business". That site looks neat, but I'm sure a lot more could have been done to showcase what they are selling.stinkyboy said:Your design expertise consists of ?
SS doesn't need any design expertise. He's the end user who these people hope will come to their site and then buy their stuff. Its his opinion that matters, not some design expert or Flash guru. You can have the most beautiful site in the world, but if the end user thinks your site is just ok, then its just ok. Web design goes a lot deeper than good design. Usability is really where its at.stinkyboy said:Your design expertise consists of ?
edit: D'oh. BeerDemon beat me to it.
SS's statement is what's wrong with many clients. This site is very clean and "cool" and is geared towards the web based "gadget" consumers. Very effective. SS does not strike me as being in that target marget and just throws out a comment reflecting his personal taste.BeerDemon said:
Haha thanks man!manhattanprjkt83 said:I agree with this comment as well, major props to him and an eye for clean design
Dont count yourself out either your stuff is really well done, one of my favorite designs i have seen on the web
www.thodyconsulting.com
Well said. Designers shouldn't be making marketing decisions for a company. That's what marketing professionals are for.pixelninja said:
The end user is extremely important in this equation. If a company was doing a effectiveness study on their site, who would they ask about the site? Designers? Or the people who will be buying the products?
More wasted bandwidth. Give me information, not fluff animation.stinkyboy said:
I gotta say, I disagree. There is no reason to have the navigation and main content in a flash doc. He could easily have done his header with the animation in flash, and left the rest as css. Or you know, left out the annoying fading images all together.jacksonpt said:
I like the site look, but hate the actual build.
nice site: http://www.alistapart.com