[miuan]

Thanks for all your advice, good and bad

Carbon parts will work unless you crash hard enough to break them. I don't think my bar will break in the middle of my ride. For ESI grips, I never rode them before, I wanna give them a try.

I just installed my new solo air assembly and gave it the first bounce. It doesn't feel any kind of sticky. Someone warned us about using non-honed stanchions. I presume there is only a minor difference. My Team stanchion is super smooth, even though a spring has been installed for a full season. Maybe it just got smoother during that year. No scratches on the inside, everything was perfect.

As for frequency of riding, you guys should understand that more riding gets fingers even worse. At least mine got so. You have to have a break, exercise and take nutrition. Nothing else helps.

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

May not be a full on DH rig, but i ride about 20 miles a day, prob 4k feet of climbing and can keep up with people on full dh bikes. This things gotten to be more fun to ride than my R9.

Enduro SL---30.3 LBS

Are you Yao Ming?

 

[Old_Sckool]

i run the esi grips this summer & liked them. grippy, never budged regardless of conditions, and are super light (about 60g lighter than odi lock ons). the smooth surface feels a bit different (i usually run ruffians), but they get the job done. not as durable as odi's, however.

Yeah, the smooth feel is what I was referring to. The weird thing is, it was never really a problem for me. I used them for about half of last season, racing some pretty rugged courses here in Colorado. Like I said before, I never slipped a hand. But couldn't shake the felling that I might at any time. If they could give them more of a "tacky" feel, I'd switch back in a minute.

As far as durability They seemed good as far as normal wear, but did not fair as well as ODI's in a crash.

 

[Jensen]

Are you Yao Ming?

Not quite, im only about 6'6", give or take. Your not the first person to ask me that

 

[Steven]

My 08 Demo-37.85lbs
Boxxer
DoubleBarrel
Crossmax SX's
Sunline Bar/Stem
Codes

 

[miuan]

My 08 Demo-37.85lbs
Boxxer
DoubleBarrel
Crossmax SX's
Sunline Bar/Stem
Codes

That bike is LONG! Setup is nice.
And good luck wil the hubs!

 

[Eren]

My 08 Demo-37.85lbs
Boxxer
DoubleBarrel
Crossmax SX's
Sunline Bar/Stem
Codes

thats a sweet set up! wheels look like an interesting choice to say the least. .

 

[Steven]

thats a sweet set up! wheels look like an interesting choice to say the least. .

The wheels have really surprised me, I used them all last year. Nothing has gone wrong with the hubs, they are really stiff, and they have the Mavis MP3 warranty. Last year, I dinged up the rear pretty bad, so I sent it back to Mavic and within a few weeks I had brand new spokes and rim. They are a great option for all light weight riders!

 

[Jase76]

My 08 Demo-37.85lbs
Boxxer
DoubleBarrel
Crossmax SX's
Sunline Bar/Stem
Codes

Have you got any more pics of that badboy, it looks looong!
I hope all your tracks are straight down the mountain, from that picture it looks like it would turn like a bus.

Apart from that its a hella nice looking bike, Specialized have stepped it up in the style stakes.

 

[Kntr]

Hit 38 lbs with the new wheels and tires. The tires are still 2 ply 2.35s. The Intense tires are about the same size as a Maxxis 2.5.

 

[Dr. Ill]

Get rid of the double chainring and clips and you'll drop another pound or two

 

[frznnomad]

where in the world do you get a pound or two by puttin on a set of flats and running one chainring??? i mean ive got one heck of an imagination but thats just unrealistic.

 

[Kntr]

Get rid of the double chainring and clips and you'll drop another pound or two

Those clips are just as light as any mag platform.
The chainring, derailer, and shifter only weight 1/2-3/4 of a pound.

 

[Dr. Ill]

front derailluer is 200 grams
front shifter is 130
chainring is 40
his pedals look like Shimano PD-M424 Pedals 620 grams compared to mg-1 378...

So thats about 612 grams he could save... or 1.34 lbs...

Thanks, I don't want to argue I'm just sayin.

 

[Damo]

Angle your saddle properly and you could shave another pound easily.

 

[dirtdigger]

front derailluer is 200 grams
front shifter is 130
chainring is 40
his pedals look like Shimano PD-M424 Pedals 620 grams compared to mg-1 378...

So thats about 612 grams he could save... or 1.34 lbs...

Thanks, I don't want to argue I'm just sayin.

what about the addition of a chain guide?

 

[miuan]

Angle your saddle properly and you could shave another pound easily.

Shave his crown jewels, right! Being a racer, I believe mine are already well under 1 pound.

 

[Kntr]

front derailluer is 200 grams
front shifter is 130
chainring is 40
his pedals look like Shimano PD-M424 Pedals 620 grams compared to mg-1 378...

So thats about 612 grams he could save... or 1.34 lbs...

Thanks, I don't want to argue I'm just sayin.

I could also get rid og the downtube gaurd which is 200g and then the odometer which is about 150g. Then there is the DRS guide. I could get it down a few more pounds but no thanks.
The pedals are pd-m424 which are 472g.

http://bike.shimano.com/catalog/cycle/products/component.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=845524441763013&FOLDER<>folder_id=2534374302053522&ASSORTMENT<>ast_id=1408474395181785&bmUID=1197380584044

I need a front derailer around here. We dont have lifts. Nice to know it could still lose some weight though.

Angle your saddle properly and you could shave another pound easily.

I like it angled like that. I have to ride it uphill.

Im not worried about what it weighs now. I just wanted it under 40lbs.

 

[Shortbus]

Mine ran at right under 41lbs if I remember correctly.

My porker hardtail is right under 40

 

[Lumagent Morple]

I'm lovin that Imperial SL, such a nice color and build.

 

[sad panda]

Uzzi with Totem coil, right at 40.5 lb

 

[siege]

What cranks are those? Are those the dual wall kenda's in 2.5?

 

[sad panda]

What cranks are those? Are those the dual wall kenda's in 2.5?

The cranks are Deity.
The tires are the 2.5 freeride bead (single ply) nevegals. I had the 2.7/2.5 dual wall setup for a while, but pulled them off to save some weight. I've still got them for shuttle runs and races.

 

[bullcrew]

The tires are the 2.5 freeride bead (single ply) nevegals. I had the 2.7/2.5 dual wall setup for a while, but pulled them off to save some weight. I've still got them for shuttle runs and races.

Same here. 2.7/2.5 for the crappy stuff ie loose rocky and nasty and 2.5 single for everything else.

 

[mattmatt86]

Damn I miss my Imperial after seeing that one, I had a similar setup and it rode like a dream.

 

[cheetaprowlerDH]

beautiful Imperial!!!
nice color selection, geez, everything else too
that thing is pristine!

 

[bikeordie351]

that imperial is sick... i cant wait until i build mine up

 

[Eren]

almost done

almost done!

will weigh it at the shop tmrw! needs to be adjusted, new brake fluid and pads and stuff.

my sunday was 40.8 and this frame is lighter, but i put on gravity lite mega exo instead of reg gravity lites.

im think 41.5lb

 

[bullcrew]

Nice!
Diggin the power outlets behind the bike as well.

 

[Eren]

Nice!
Diggin the power outlets behind the bike as well.

you know england! haha.

i think you can see i need a stay protector now as well!

 

[TGR]

I need a front derailer around here. We dont have lifts. Nice to know it could still lose some weight though.



I like it angled like that. I have to ride it uphill.

Im not worried about what it weighs now. I just wanted it under 40lbs.

then why did you buy a downhill race frame?

 

[norbar]

ehh. A lot of ppl use them as FR rigs. It's light and geo is FRish

 

[Kntr]

then why did you buy a downhill race frame?

Its the perfect DH bike to ride uphill when you have to. Its lighter and the geo is not like a full on DH Race Bike. Look at the numbers. Its my do all bike that is mostly used for resorts and DH. Then there is the occasional 20+ XC ride.

 

[Jase76]

Its the perfect DH bike to ride uphill when you have to. Its lighter and the geo is not like a full on DH Race Bike. Look at the numbers. Its my do all bike that is mostly used for resorts and DH. Then there is the occasional 20+ XC ride.

Kanter, the geo of the Socom is the same as the M3, about the most "full on race bike" out there.

Admittedly its light but it isn't a trails bike!

 

[SteezyWeezy]

you know england! haha.

i think you can see i need a stay protector now as well!

wrap both above and below, if not, they get obnoxious.

 

[TGR]

Kanter, the geo of the Socom is the same as the M3, about the most "full on race bike" out there.

Admittedly its light but it isn't a trails bike!

that's what I was trying to say

 

[SteezyWeezy]

Kanter, the geo of the Socom is the same as the M3, about the most "full on race bike" out there.

Admittedly its light but it isn't a trails bike!

ya, same ht angle and bb height as a bike with 9.5 inches of travel... but it has 8...

 

[Jase76]

Look for yourself man...
Socom-
http://www.intensecycles.com/web/socomfro.html
M3-
http://www.intensecycles.com/web/m3.html

It is a DH race bike, it has not got "Freeridish" geo!

I dont want to e-fight about this, read the numbers.

 

[William42]

my glory freeride has a 67&#730; headtube angle and a BB at 14.5. The soccom has a 66.5 and 14.125. My TT is about half inch shorter? maybe? You're using the m3 as the definition of downhill geometry, but the soccom is the same - with an inch and a half less travel. The soccom is easily a light weight freeride frame - if you wanna debate how its gonna hold up, blahblahblah, whatever, but its got all the numbers of a downhill oriented freeride frame.

 

[Udi]

Kanter, the geo of the Socom is the same as the M3, about the most "full on race bike" out there.

But it's nothing like it with sag factored in. Having done a few runs on the M3, it's not quite what I'd call "full on race bike" either, the bar height thanks to headtube length is super high, the BB doesn't feel as low as the claim (I'm pretty sure the actual vs claimed numbers don't line up either) and the head angle could afford to be slacker. This is all corrected in the M5 at least on paper, and by doing so they've obviously admitted there was an issue with the previous generation's geo chart.

Anyway, the Socom as said already has a hunk less travel than the M3 so once you recalculate the figures after sag the numbers are going to be significantly different. It's hard to define what constitutes freeride geo and DH geo when there's a huge amount of variation in DH tracks over different locations and levels of competition (ie. local vs national vs WC), but to call the Socom a full on race bike would be off the mark for most definitions of the term.

That's not to say you can't use it as one (our local series' elite winner rode one to victory) but on paper it's not perfect.