[DanSheridan]

cant say the same about your bike!

 

[rayhaan]

ha ha wait until you see it!

 

[Prettym1k3]

I call BS on that Sunday build. You've still got some heavy parts on there.

Are you running tubeless? No spaces/top cap. I've never seen a Sunday under 38.5 lbs. without a Ti spring.

Just asking. If you have scale pics, I'd be interested to see.

 

[rhys.l]

38 lbs flat.....oldie but goodie I reckon still with some heavy bits.

 

[IH8Rice]

I call BS on that Sunday build. You've still got some heavy parts on there.

Are you running tubeless? No spaces/top cap. I've never seen a Sunday under 38.5 lbs. without a Ti spring.

Just asking. If you have scale pics, I'd be interested to see.

he's even got a super long steerer tube too

i call Bravo Sierra too until i see a scale pic

 

[Udi]

Yeah that most certainly isn't 37lbs.
I know what it takes to get a sunday to the 36.x mark and that has next to none of it done. I dare say that one is much closer to the 39/40 mark.

 

[rayhaan]

does that take into account the fact that, that is a small frame, I mean that thing is tiny!

 

[Kntr]

Few upgrades. Its real close to high 36 lbs.

 

[Orfen]

does that take into account the fact that, that is a small frame, I mean that thing is tiny!

its clearly a Med and not a small

 

[ciszewski]

I'm skeptical on the weight too, but that aside; Is that Ben Reids bike, or did you just replicate it?

 

[DanSheridan]

It was one of bens spare bikes that he had never used, i got it off him new.
will weigh it again.

 

[DanSheridan]

its clearly a Med and not a small

Its clearly a small!

 

[IH8Rice]

Its clearly a small!

clearly


did he have the frame all drilled out and what not?

 

[haromtnbiker]

As to any form of comparison with the weight of the Sunday, mine weighs in at 40.5 pounds with some lighter parts than his (cranks) and some heavier. (brakes)

 

[poonstar]

my sunday hit 35.2 on the scale

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1748395/


http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1748396/

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1924594/

2008 small sunday factory
2008 boxxer wc
e13 reducer cups w/carbon spacers
fsa internal headset
fox dhx 5 coil or fox dhx air
RCS ti spring 300lb
gravity lite 165 cranks/bb
e13 taco
e13 38t ring
e13 LG1 chain guide
crank bros acid 2 carbon pedals
funn rsx direct mount stem w/ti hardware
easton cnt carbon bar
odi ruffian lock-on grips
xt shadow shifter/ rear derailleur
shimano ultegra cassette
KMC ti-nitride hollow pin gold chain
avid ultimate brake levers w/ ti hardware
avid code calipers w/ ti hardware
avid g2 rotors
dt swiss 440 front and rear hubs
dt swiss comp db spokes w/pro lock nipples
dt swiss 5.1d 32h rims
maxxis 2.5 2 ply minion front tire
maxxis 2.35 1 ply highroller rear tire
specialized presta tubes
thompson post
wtb devo saddle

 

[Muttely]

Heres my session, according to my £5 scale, its 37 odd lb's, i was expecting a fair bit lighter but hey, thats how it goes!

thats a dirty light wheelset, Pro2/Revolution/XM719

Wellgo Mg1's, Micro Sl IBeam post/I Beam Sl seat.

 

[poonstar]

sweet trek!!

 

[bullcrew]

my sunday hit 35.2 on the scale

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1748395/


http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1748396/

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1924594/

2008 small sunday factory
2008 boxxer wc
e13 reducer cups w/carbon spacers
fsa internal headset
fox dhx 5 coil or fox dhx air
RCS ti spring 300lb
gravity lite 165 cranks/bb
e13 taco
e13 38t ring
e13 LG1 chain guide
crank bros acid 2 carbon pedals
funn rsx direct mount stem w/ti hardware
easton cnt carbon bar
odi ruffian lock-on grips
xt shadow shifter/ rear derailleur
shimano ultegra cassette
KMC ti-nitride hollow pin gold chain
avid ultimate brake levers w/ ti hardware
avid code calipers w/ ti hardware
avid g2 rotors
dt swiss 440 front and rear hubs
dt swiss comp db spokes w/pro lock nipples
dt swiss 5.1d 32h rims
maxxis 2.5 2 ply minion front tire
maxxis 2.35 1 ply highroller rear tire
specialized presta tubes
thompson post
wtb devo saddle

If the frames not 8.25lb without shock then no it doesnt!

 

[DanSheridan]

did he have the frame all drilled out and what not?

Ye he had his race bike there which is the black 1 that is drilled out.

 

[tfree120]

haromtnbiker, your sunday looks even better with the new boxxer decals.

 

[Udi]

Dan -
He was asking if yours was drilled out, not that it makes much difference anyway. That thing definitely isn't 37lbs, take a pic on a digital hanging scale. Also, Ben Reid rides medium frames... are you sure that's a small? You can tell by the tiny seatube gusset, like on poonstar's sunday. A side on picture would show it.

poonstar -
Single-ply tyres and XC tubes don't count!

 

[Cabdoctor]

38 lbs flat.....oldie but goodie I reckon still with some heavy bits.

It looks like a budget v-10

 

[rayhaan]

Dan -
He was asking if yours was drilled out, not that it makes much difference anyway. That thing definitely isn't 37lbs, take a pic on a digital hanging scale. Also, Ben Reid rides medium frames... are you sure that's a small? You can tell by the tiny seatube gusset, like on poonstar's sunday. A side on picture would show it.

poonstar -
Single-ply tyres and XC tubes don't count!

have a look at this...ben reid is a small guy there is no way he rides medium frames.

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/ben-reid-iron-horse-2008.html

 

[bpatterson6]

2008 Intense M6 Medium Frame - Raw
2008 Manitou Revox - Recently Tuned by Dirtlabs - Steel Spring will be replaced with Ti.
2008 Boxxer World Cup
Sunline Boxxer Integrated Stem
Sunline "Vone" bars 38mm Rise
Sram X.0 Front trigger Shifter
Sram X.9 Rear Der. Short Cage
2009 Shimano Saint Cranks 165mm x 83mm
e.13 36t Front Chainring
Crank Brothers 50/50 Flat Pedals
e.13 LG-1 Chain Guide
e.13 Reducer Cups
FSA Headset Bits
Sram 990 Road Cassette 11-21
Sram 950 Chain
Mavic Ex823 Laced to Hope Bulb Hubs w/ Double Butted Spokes
SDG I-Beam IFLY Seat
SDG I-Beam Seat Post 31.6mm
Avid Juicy 7 Brakes Front/Rear - Gusset 185mm Rotors
Maxxis Minion 2.7 3c Front
Maxxis Minion 2.5 Super Tacky Rear
ODI Cross Trainer Grips

Currently Weighs: 39.5 lbs

 

[norbar]

have a look at this...ben reid is a small guy there is no way he rides medium frames.

http://www.pinkbike.com/news/ben-reid-iron-horse-2008.html

Many pro's ride one size over the one suggested for their height for stability. I think hill used large, Dany Heart uses the bigger of the 2 lapierre sizes, Gee also has Large but I'm not sure about his height.

 

[ciszewski]

yeah but Reid rides a small. Did you read what was in the link? Or are you just saying it wasn't outrageous for somebody to think that he rode a medium?

oh and a lot of pros also use a smaller bike that what is suggested. It's all preference.

 

[norbar]

yeah but Reid rides a small. Did you read what was in the link? Or are you just saying it wasn't outrageous for somebody to think that he rode a medium?

oh and a lot of pros also use a smaller bike that what is suggested. It's all preference.

Uhh early day reading and I didn't spot that post. Still the idea was that ppl tend to use frames not only of their suggested size.

BTW. Who uses a frame 1 size to small for him? Haven't heard that.

 

[ciszewski]

looking for proof right now, but Hill ran a 17" custom geo frame not too long ago which would be somewhere around a stock medium (also 17")

Sam Hill's bike is compared to a medium 224 in "ride"

 

[ronan]

how tall is the hill?

 

[ciszewski]

no idea, took me a while just to find his bike size.

not going to take more time finding actual specs on Hill himself.

 

[IH8Rice]

how tall is the hill?

8' tall...and he throws lightning bolts when he gets mad....dont get him mad

 

[duck]

Shaved almost a half pound by switching from the Daredevil pedals to the new Deity.

41.93

 

[DHRracer]

how tall is the hill?

I would say Sam is 5'9"-5'10" his Sunday was a Med.except the down tube was from a large.Just a very slack Med.

 

[ZHendo]

I would say Sam is 5'9"-5'10" his Sunday was a Med.except the down tube was from a large.Just a very slack Med.

you heard him kids...grab your hacksaws and blowtorches and get to work.

 

[Udi]

Hill is 5'10 and rides a 17" that has roughly the same WB as a 19", the HA is slightly slacker and the frontend is slightly longer. I'm with norbar, at WC (or even elite) level you usually want a slightly larger bike than what would fit you otherwise.

Perhaps Reid is shorter than I thought because the small sunday is a very small bike. Wasn't even Jonnier on a medium?

 

[bent_steel]

somewhere around 44ish.

 

[al-irl]

Hill is 5'10 and rides a 17" that has roughly the same WB as a 19", the HA is slightly slacker and the frontend is slightly longer. I'm with norbar, at WC (or even elite) level you usually want a slightly larger bike than what would fit you otherwise.

Perhaps Reid is shorter than I thought because the small sunday is a very small bike. Wasn't even Jonnier on a medium?

Couldn't tell you Bens exact height but he is tiny part leprechaun maybe 5 4" 5 6" or something close to that so a small would not be that odd

 

[Udi]

Haha wow, fair enough! He doesn't look that short in videos, must be because he's still in proportion.

 

[iRider]

At the beginning of his career Reid was riding a pimp'd Giant ATX DH because he wouldn't fit on the small "new" DH bike. When he got a full Giant factory ride they made him a custom XS frame.

 

[norbar]

Udi extactly. You trully start to appreciate the long wb on a world cup class track. I was moaning all the time about the long wb of my bike until I did a little euro trip. When the things go fast, steep and nasty you want your bike to be as long as possible Living in a place with very tech dh track I'd even consider buying a larger frame for myself.

@bent_steel great demo. They seem to be getting more and more popular lately for no apparent reason