40lb post! DH/FR Rigs around the 40lb mark! tips, pics, specs
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Mega strong, looks awesome, lighter than Shimano Saint setup, lifetime warranty, what else could you ask for?
I have them on my Jedi and I am absolutely happy with choosing them.
Anyone actually want to look at the actual weights or warranty with these 'uber cranks'....or should we just stay with typical internet postings and limit this to e-pinions??
Read their warranty. It pretty much excludes anything that would go wrong with a crank arm " *Warranty excludes tapers, splines and threads. ".
It is only the beefier RS7s that have any warranty at all for hard use. The RS8s are not warrantied at all for jumping/DH/4X/competetive use.
Middleburn also has no real ditribution network in the US...so warranty issues would need to go back to the UK.
About the weights...165mm RS7s with a spider (no bb, no rings, etc) are about 500g. For a Dh application (since were are after all in the DH forum) a proper 83mm ISIS BB will run about 300g.
New 83mm saint 170mm crank arms with BB (no rings) is right around 850g Atlas FR in 83mm with BB are 828g.
So for a whopping 30g penalty, you get a better BB/interface and proper mfg support (in all other than the UK).
For a absolutely deal breaking 50g, you get a WAY better BB/interface steel pedal inserts, and backing by the largest bike mfg with the most expansive distribution network in the biz....
Want to play the same game with a 73mm ISIS BB.... then start comparing to XT, SLX, and Gravity lights.....
are middleburn nicely made..YES! Do they seem to hold up well for most users..YES! Are they outdated in the interface and construction methods...YES!
FACTS PEOPLE, lets stick to the FACTS.....
Read their warranty. It pretty much excludes anything that would go wrong with a crank arm " *Warranty excludes tapers, splines and threads. ".
It is only the beefier RS7s that have any warranty at all for hard use. The RS8s are not warrantied at all for jumping/DH/4X/competetive use.
Middleburn also has no real ditribution network in the US...so warranty issues would need to go back to the UK.
About the weights...165mm RS7s with a spider (no bb, no rings, etc) are about 500g. For a Dh application (since were are after all in the DH forum) a proper 83mm ISIS BB will run about 300g.
New 83mm saint 170mm crank arms with BB (no rings) is right around 850g Atlas FR in 83mm with BB are 828g.
So for a whopping 30g penalty, you get a better BB/interface and proper mfg support (in all other than the UK).
For a absolutely deal breaking 50g, you get a WAY better BB/interface steel pedal inserts, and backing by the largest bike mfg with the most expansive distribution network in the biz....
Want to play the same game with a 73mm ISIS BB.... then start comparing to XT, SLX, and Gravity lights.....
are middleburn nicely made..YES! Do they seem to hold up well for most users..YES! Are they outdated in the interface and construction methods...YES!
FACTS PEOPLE, lets stick to the FACTS.....
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The middleburns are still a nice crank, the quality of the alloy used is second to none. Also, there is nothing wrong with the isis interface. Infact it is still largely used by trials riders who can put their bikes through hell and back. I still like the skinny look too...
SKF bottom brackets last forever compared to most manufacturers, even with the small bearings that come with using an isis interface, so that isn't a problem...A 73mm skf isis b weighs 295g
Also the amount of drag in an outboard bearing crank compare to a conventional bb is quite high.
Not saying that middleburns are better than saint etc but they are definitely an option worth looking at and not to be dismissed for using 'old' technology
Also the amount of drag in an outboard bearing crank compare to a conventional bb is quite high.
Not saying that middleburns are better than saint etc but they are definitely an option worth looking at and not to be dismissed for using 'old' technology
But his is the internet, where else can stupid people get such a bountiful payload of misinformation?
it's a wild gues but a church maybe?
but....but....i heard the arms are light
ISIS was a quick stop on the fail train.
Its not about flashy, its about something that works. If it works for you, then you're set. Ive wrecked every ISIS BB I had within a month of installing it at the outside. It was better than shearing tapered BB's, but not enough so to not get abandoned by most Mfrs in a hurry!
Its not about flashy, its about something that works. If it works for you, then you're set. Ive wrecked every ISIS BB I had within a month of installing it at the outside. It was better than shearing tapered BB's, but not enough so to not get abandoned by most Mfrs in a hurry!
new middleburn protos:
Right then, facts it is...
I think you'll find that if you manage to bugger up any of these, odds on something has come loose, which generally means it's your fault. I know ISIS isn't great, and does sometimes work loose, but generally it's stuff like people not doing up their pedals. I think you'll also find that Middleburn are pretty good at doing cheap replacements even if it is your fault - can't see Shimano matching that.
Er, the RS8s are RS7s with extra machining for reduced weight and were designed exclusively for XC use, not DH lunacy. Sounds like a pretty reasonable explanation to me.
True dat. Hopefully someone will pick them up for proper support soon!
Also true - my 165mm Mk2 Saints are 750g for arms and axle. However, the new through axle cranks should be a good bit lighter, and you get to use a proper BB again. Can't wait!
Why? Saints come in 73mm as well you know.
Are they about to release a proper crank as well...? YES!
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Middleburn. The only company in the world with a concept to market product timeline longer than Chris King...
Struggling to think of anyone else... no, I reckon you're right. Although I think Hope's seatpost deserves an honouralbe mention.
I agree they should come up with some other hyped up bit of un needed techno crap to satisfy the duche bags out ther
Banshee Legend?
Though they finally come this winter but it has been 3-4 years.i am running 165s and they're black!
so were did you get them??I looked through Middleburn's webpage and they only had them in silver??
Intense 951..36,7 lbs
will become lighter after the winter...
will become lighter after the winter...
thank you. Yes I use something like velcro to protect my chainstay it works amazing!
my current rigs:
14.xx and 16.xx kilo
14.xx and 16.xx kilo
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^ had to do a double take to notice they were different. they match great.
Are these for sale now????
no? thats the reason i said "proto"...
Please tell me that's not a self-extracting bolt.new middleburn protos:
Sure looks like it
39lbs, will go lighter but its riding well at the moment and I dont want to compromise that for weight.
ahh college. i remember keeping my DH bike in my dorm room.
For what, all 6 months you were in college?
9 months guy.....9 months...then another 3 months at county...but that doesnt countFor what, all 6 months you were in college?
My three bikes in my dorm room last year- organized chaos.
By the fourth year, you may learn that you cannot link private password protected photos on a public forum...
But that may depend on the the quality of your education and the particular curriculum...
wow when i went to college they took all my stuff and gave me an orange jump suit, you guys have it easy