why you thinking about picking one up?id be interested to find out how the CCDB's are working on the bike. i found on my Revolt that it blew through its travel a bit too easily for my liking without having to really get into the HSC (which i didnt want to do.)
are they even for sale?why you thinking about picking one up?
In my experience with the CCDB on other bikes (in coil guise, the airs have a lot more stiction) you need to crank the HSC a bit to get a decent amount of compression support out of them. Without a reasonable amount of HS preload on the valve, the LSC will open up too easily when you actually need the support. I think ideally you would have the option of changing the spring rate of the HS poppet valves depending on rider weight / skill level and leverage curve of the bike, otherwise there's potential for compromise.id be interested to find out how the CCDB's are working on the bike. i found on my Revolt that it blew through its travel a bit too easily for my liking without having to really get into the HSC (which i didnt want to do.) if they didnt change much on the system design, then id assume thatd still be the case.
The frame was designed around the RC4 and is the recommended shock. I'd still be interested to hear more about the CCDB on these bikes but from what I have been told the CCDB is over-damped for this bike and it will loose pedal/tire "feel" and leave the rider with a "numb" or "couch-like" feeling bike.In my experience with the CCDB on other bikes (in coil guise, the airs have a lot more stiction) you need to crank the HSC a bit to get a decent amount of compression support out of them. Without a reasonable amount of HS preload on the valve, the LSC will open up too easily when you actually need the support. I think ideally you would have the option of changing the spring rate of the HS poppet valves depending on rider weight / skill level and leverage curve of the bike, otherwise there's potential for compromise.
I have owned both and they're both awesome bikes. The Undead feels more nimble than the DHR to me; they both carry speed and pedal well. Braking on the DHR is a little more neutral than the Undead. Little things like the fender and bump stops are nice as well.Hello, I ride turner dhr dw about 2 year and i like it but now I want to buy new frame i look evil undead . How do you different feeling of dhr and undead .do you think it has better than dhr. Please help .
Thank you very much monkey rider
Ps. Sorry for my English .
Thank you very much . Now I buy undead.I have owned both and they're both awesome bikes. The Undead feels more nimble than the DHR to me; they both carry speed and pedal well. Braking on the DHR is a little more neutral than the Undead. Little things like the fender and bump stops are nice as well.
Thanks mate, just what I was looking for.5'9 puts you on a medium, however I wouldn't class it as a particularly 'large' medium so I'd suggest trying one before purchase if possible. Otherwise, check the sizing chart (particularly reach, stack, and WB values) published in pinkbike's undead article and compare them to whatever you are currently riding - the measurements are fairly accurate and useful in gauging sizing if you don't have the access to test one.
I see a Rp23.
Seriously. What a great-looking bike.I can't believe how good looking this frame really is
better place an order...I think the undead is going to be my next dh bike. Until then i'll continue to beat the piss out of my existing bike.
Yep, that's the bike I'm waiting for!I see a Rp23.
Uprising?
Crazy, just noticed you're running zero LSC. No wallowing in corners with that setup? Seems scary to run zero LSC.- Bottom out all the way open
- 140psi in Boost Valve
- LSC 0 clicks in from open
- HSC 6-7 clicks in from open
- Rebound depends on spring rate
Zero clicks on the adjuster doesn't mean zero damping by any means, especially on RC4's. They have a lot more resistance in the first 1/4 of stroke compared to something like a BOS or CCDB because of the boost valve and large shaft, therefore I think less LSC works better. Kevin thinks 5 clicks is a good starting point which I don't disagree with (by all means go with that) but having tried the BOS in there for some testing I think there's lost potential in bump absorption on the RC4 that can be recovered with some clever setup, and running a bunch of LSC is not the place to start.Crazy, just noticed you're running zero LSC. No wallowing in corners with that setup? Seems scary to run zero LSC.
Who is this Ian Collins fellow? He always has the latest and sexiest bike.