Not quite as easily as a rear mech is
I feel people are looking for problems here
I personally wouldn't ever want electric shifting on an MTB (orEMTB) but not for any of the bizzarre reasons you overthinkers are coming up with
New Saint. Finally.
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I feel people are looking for problems here
I personally wouldn't ever want electric shifting on an MTB (orEMTB) but not for any of the bizzarre reasons you overthinkers are coming up with
Oh I was just replying to the batteries removable for charging separate from the bike thing. I'd have expected that to be something that Shimano would have considered for sure given all the reasons for doing so.
I can't afford electronic shifting and even if I could I'd spend the money on mechanical shifting and the change on bike holidays.
I can't afford electronic shifting and even if I could I'd spend the money on mechanical shifting and the change on bike holidays.
Look at the derailleur and shifters, comparing Deore and SLX. There's really no difference, other than the price tag..
Fairly sure the only difference between the SGS version is SLX has an alloy backplate, a rubber bumper and weighs a tiny bit less.
Deore isn't available in GS (Medium cage) tho. and that's the reason I've just bought an SLX mech. (to use with an 11-46t cassette). Would have happily run the deore if I was paying full price for it but UK dist has them on offer ATM so it was only £3 moar.
Sounds like Shimano to me...
Why? That derailleur would break right through the rock.
You didn't consider just fitting stunt pegs instead?
I feel that the new Saint stuff should come with Metric pedal threads and they should make it 14X1.25 just to make things a bit more exciting.
Good to know.
I'm still on 10 speed and HG freehubs and don't really see that changing any time soon.
I hate microspline and I'll be fucked if I'm paying £125+ for XD cassettes when a 10spd Deore/Tiagra is £20 and I don't actually need the wider gearing.
Talking of which. Will be swapping out my Emtb drivetrain tomorrow. 10spd SRAM chain, 10 spd 11-25 Tiagra cassette, new jockeys and 36T NW DEKKAS chainring cost less than £30 all in. Current drivetrain (same components) finally started slipping in the small cassette spockets this week with two years (8000+miles) on it.
I'm still on 10 speed and HG freehubs and don't really see that changing any time soon.
I hate microspline and I'll be fucked if I'm paying £125+ for XD cassettes when a 10spd Deore/Tiagra is £20 and I don't actually need the wider gearing.
Talking of which. Will be swapping out my Emtb drivetrain tomorrow. 10spd SRAM chain, 10 spd 11-25 Tiagra cassette, new jockeys and 36T NW DEKKAS chainring cost less than £30 all in. Current drivetrain (same components) finally started slipping in the small cassette spockets this week with two years (8000+miles) on it.
11-25 cassette and 36t chainring, you are not a spinner! 
That's the gearing I have on my park bike... it might even be a 32t or 34t. I feel like a wimp now
That's the gearing I have on my park bike... it might even be a 32t or 34t. I feel like a wimp now
I didn’t even come close to a reasonable mileage value before my chain started slipping in the smallest sprockets (Shimano cassette). Sunrace installed last night and ready to go. I am stretching chains real fast at the moment and left the last change out to long. Putting down a lot of torque and mainly riding the 15t. Only way to make fun of the local trail is to balls out sprint it, doubling and tripling the rollers. It’s a general family oriented trail that serves me well over winter. Should save the money and run a 32t ring with a 11-36 cassette then change out for Summer.
It's a derestricted Emtb. With 27.5s. So quite a lot of spinning. Also means I use the entire cassette far more evenly.11-25 cassette and 36t chainring, you are not a spinner!
That's the gearing I have on my park bike... it might even be a 32t or 34t. I feel like a wimp now
I swap to a wheelset with an 11-36 and tougher MOAR aggressive tyres for proper riding.
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IME The main reason chainslip happens after so little mileage on modern mtb groupsetss is that the top jockey has to sit in a position which gives less chairwrap around the smaller sprockets than old skool mechs and tighter cassettes.
These are my old drivetrain parts.
On a park tool chain wear guage that chain would've measured somewhere around 3%.
12speed will slip at half that. And even sooner on an Emtb.
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He was also using an xt shifter. I love that shifter. Guess im not the only one
You must have huge muscular thumbs
what's your suggestion?
until I see the manufacturers stamp on the inside of the arm I am just assuming it's another model / brand with a saint decal.
It looks like the same same Saint crank that has been out for ten years, just minus the obvious tabs.
WHO KNOWS, maybe the tabs are there and the ochain is just a fake cover, ala Mustang brake covers.
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Fuck do people really pay THAT much for those things?
Excuse me one moment
Have to catch my breath
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Fuck do people really pay THAT much for those things?
Excuse me one moment
Have to catch my breath
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New Saint....... Eventually?
Those are 2025 enduro XTs with Saint decals. I've seen the product launch slides from the Japan Boyz and Saint is nowhere to be seen. In fact, there will only be XTR (XC and Enduro versions), XT (again, XC and Enduro versions), and LX (with 11 and 12 speeds).
So they're doing an 83mm axle enduro version? Kinda makes sense now DH racers need to be super lean to fit the outfits.
Dunno about the axle, but the crank profile is the same as the 2025 XTs.So they're doing an 83mm axle enduro version? Kinda makes sense now DH racers need to be super lean to fit the outfits.
Reading between the lines... Should we take that to mean that both xt and xtr will be offered with an 83mm option? Because that previously has not been the case since Saint/zee were the only 83mm versions.
Also, the more I look at that picture, the more the profile and surface contours look like current Saint... Maybe just on a diet and with direct mount?
Say hello to the new XTR/XT/LX/ESSA groupsets:
Shimano patent reveals plans for fully wireless 13-speed electronic groupsets | BikeRadar
Shimano patent reveals plans for fully wireless 13-speed electronic groupsets | BikeRadar
I made a mistake here, the new groups will be jinxed from scratch, as they will be 13-speed. Mechanical LX will stay at 12.
Oh, and just for you, undercover roadies, the gravel line will grow from GRX into a full line of groupsets.
why is there still no 12 speed di2 grx? it was supposed to release half a year after the mechanical stuff?
2025 it is Seth. They will unearth a complete gravel groupset line, with the top spot being wireless.
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