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At 6'2" I now seem to fall exactly in the middle of the L and XL sizes for most new bikes. I don't need that level of indecision on bikes I can't demo!
Order 3 different bikes. Keep the one that fits, sell the other two at a mark-up over retail for being "available now".At 6'2" I now seem to fall exactly in the middle of the L and XL sizes for most new bikes. I don't need that level of indecision on bikes I can't demo!
How many points is @Toshi going to have to charge me for the bridging loan until I sell them though?
At 5'11" I was exactly on the upper end of size M on my last two bikes and went with a large anyway. Not only am I happy with the decision but feel like I could go bigger. Those modern steep seat angles make the bikes feel smaller than they actually are when in the saddle. Both of mine have 76 deg SAs.At 6'2" I now seem to fall exactly in the middle of the L and XL sizes for most new bikes. I don't need that level of indecision on bikes I can't demo!
I'm 6'1" and am fully on the XL train these days, even as bikes have gotten bigger. That's after many (too many?) years of purposefully getting larges, partly because the head tubes on XL's always seemed too tall, which seems to be less of an issue now.
I feel like a bear in the circus on most larges now, even as they have stretched out.
I feel like a bear in the circus on most larges now, even as they have stretched out.
I'm 6' even and my L Commie is a 495 reach. It works well with the 78.5 STA. It is a hella long bike! The trail I rode this morning has a -23% grade segment, and the bike goes good on that sort of thing.
I don't love the length on hiker-ass v-corner switchbacks... but those suck on every bike I've ridden, and I refuse to build my riding style or bike around badly-built hiker trails.
It climbs very comfortably with the steep STA plus the roomy reach. Typical climbs on my local loops are 8-10%.
The Jibbb's shorter reach should be more nimble for jibbing!!! and lower angle trails.
There are clear pros and cons on geo #s, depending what you ride. I am NEVER going back to a steep HA though now that my trail bike matches my old DH bike finally!
I don't love the length on hiker-ass v-corner switchbacks... but those suck on every bike I've ridden, and I refuse to build my riding style or bike around badly-built hiker trails.
It climbs very comfortably with the steep STA plus the roomy reach. Typical climbs on my local loops are 8-10%.
The Jibbb's shorter reach should be more nimble for jibbing!!! and lower angle trails.
There are clear pros and cons on geo #s, depending what you ride. I am NEVER going back to a steep HA though now that my trail bike matches my old DH bike finally!
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I had a Large front triangle and traded it for a medium. I really like the m Size.
470mm reach and 29s are a lot for my moldy back. 465mm looks to be my max if I want to do any sort of piloting. I can passenger the shit out of longer bikes but I get bored and sore backed.
Have we...reached...peak reach?
At 6'2" I agree that 470mm reach seems to be the max for a playfull rig, possibly a little lower on a bike with adjustable geo (who runs their settings in trail mode anyway). Upping the reach has other benefits but I still think 480mm with 35-40mm stem is my limit. Still on 27 wheels and tend to stick with 330-335mm chainstays. Granted this setup works for the riding I do locally, and I would consider longer reach and CS if I were riding park or faster more open trails, but then I would be looking to increase travel also.
5'10 gorilla wingspan and on a L with 480 reach and a 45mm stem, but my riding is wide open and fast with wagon wheels. Coming from a very flickable 27.5 slack st/ short chainstay bike and a "jib" background i couldnt be any happier with this bike for my area
If a long bike stops being playful can't you just go faster?
Yep, it’s still possible but different game and techniques. I like both and enjoy the long ones and short ones but preferably on trails that suit each. Jump trails on shorter bikes with smaller wheels and natural DH tracks longer and bigger wheels.
in this pic. I’m on a Large in front and Rudi is on a Medium in the back. Normal manual techniques weren’t working for either of us on the Large and both of us could do whatever on the M. Long shit is stable and that is that.
Think we might be a similar height (5'11") but I've pretty much always ridden Ms but that's exactly why I'm riding a small Eeb. It's still longer reach than a M from 5 years back though and because of the weight placement a shit load more stable anyway.
I've definitely become more comfortable jumping onto on a modern L 29er now though. I am getting old AF tho
When you first mentioned looking under the bars in a manny I actually thought you meant low front wheel arse really low and far back like a super stretched out brakeless BMX manny but with the higher bars of a FS mtb. on BMX I sometimes feel like my grips are just below eyeline height with the front wheel really low
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I'm 6'1, fairly average proportions for my height and loving my 470mm reach Titan (size L). The 450mm stays keep the wheelbase pretty lengthy, stack is tall but with minimal spacers feels really comfortable and upright. My buddy's Commencal Meta AM from a couple of years ago had much shorter stack and only slightly shorter reach but felt like a clown bike to me, way too small. I think I had under-appreciated what higher vs. lower stack actually feels like after having a few bikes with fairly stubby headtubes.
I think something that's often not recognized is how far out of published specs bikes can be. Check out the PB review of the Commie Supreme mullet - https://www.pinkbike.com/news/review-commencal-supreme-dh-29-27-2021.html, reach is off by 10mm. I've measured bikes with chainstay lengths pretty far off, same with head angles. BB heights are often off - although that's expected. The point is, it makes deductions/conversations based on published specs unreliable.
Good thing those specs aren't written down on the exploded parts diagrams or people would be having a shitfit.
Good thing designer specs are always adhered to by their contract manufacturers!
Any thoughts on what this might be? Seat tube looks like a Forbidden, but I would be surprised to see them move away from the high pivot layout so soon.
Cable ports look like Specialized, but it seems too soon for a new Enduro.
That looks like a dual link, not a HPP or Specialized's 63737337 links. The rear triangle looks like one piece and the pivot up at its front looks like it's connected to a link, not easily visible because it's the same color as the frame.
Might it be the first crabon Banshee?
EDIT: The modular dropouts look also Banshee.
Might it be the first crabon Banshee?
EDIT: The modular dropouts look also Banshee.
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You may right abt a plastic Banshee, although my first thought was Mehcialized with all the Swedish gold bouncy parts.
But Banshee only just changed to their verticle shock layout on their recent refresh.
Definitely a hint of Forbidden about that seat tube as you said.
Definitely a hint of Forbidden about that seat tube as you said.
Maybe a new Revel? I'm still gravitating towards a plastic Banshee.
Honest question, do people ride in inclement conditions less these days? Whatever bike that is looks like a total maintenance nightmare and probably has some shock compatibility challenges as well. Wouldn't be my cup of tea, but then again I'm a luddite and prefer alloy frames and external cable routing.
Propain reacted to the criticism with moving the shock in front of the seat tube. I think what the old Intense, SC or currently GG are doing is ideal regarding not getting your shock covered in shit, but where do I store my toobs, water bottles, tools, the kitchen sink on the frame to look full enduro??
but where do I store my toobs, water bottles, tools, the kitchen sink on the frame to look full enduro??
I'm sure he knows and the old guy can still move.
so who’s the idiot feeding him this time?
Bragging about your Ebike racing achievements it's a bit like showing off your 2" wang in a cock measuring contest
Thanks so much for that correction. Your statement sums exactly what I meant.
"i was draped over my bars like the jersey i was contractually obligated to wear"
note he rides for yamaha now.