god those guys made assess of themselves over on vital to the point they deleted their press release
This is what's wrong with The Industry™
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Was their released Sick?
no, but their entire marketing plan was recycled from 90's mountain biking with a dash of Pole. they refused to answer even basic questions. it was honestly painful to watch it unfold.
I think he was referencing this crap show...
I'm aware of that but these guys were their own self aggrandizing shit show. Refusing to post geometry, patent #s, data, anything anyone would care about. They referred to everything as "secret sauce" and it went downhill from there. Everything about screamed 90s stoner mountain bikers.I think he was referencing this crap show...
The worst part was them creating bogus accounts at Vital to support the scam while bashing on Intense.
On their website they had their name and logo trademarked, several people ran searches with the USPTO, but turned up nothing. Same with the patents.
In the forums spomer mentioned that they reached out to him to let him know it was several people using a shared computer at their shop. Not that it really helped their cause or anything.
I had no idea about this brand. It's amazing though how closely the story parallels other infamous ones, like Matt Chester/Mint Cycles, Lahar, etc...It's always the exact same story...I think he was referencing this crap show...
I Hate that term secret sauce....even when canfield uses it...
Biggest DOOSH term....
make sure you don't have any blunt objects within reach.......
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Yep.I think he was referencing this crap show...
I got one of their frames from the source after the didn't pay for them.
Had another frame built by Marino that wasn't as slack that I am riding now.
I don't know if this counts as "the industry", but how about the trend of not wearing any body armor in DH racing? You guys probably heard about Pierron being airlifted with banged up organs. Once a few guys stopped wearing protection everyone else stopped because it feels like a disadvantage. I'm guilty of never wearing my Dainese jacket anymore and usually just G-Form elbow and knee pads. Last night I bought an Alpinestars jacket that looks way slimmer in hopes that I'll wear it along with real knee pads and impact shorts any time I'm riding lifts or the Sur-ron. Should DH racing require back, chest, knee, and elbow pads? I'm leaning toward "yes". Otherwise people won't and will get unnecessarily injured. A requirement will also push the industry toward making unobtrusive protection.
I'm still wearing my poc jacket, knee pads and a Leatt when I'm at the resort.
If I crash, I never bounce.
*not a DH racer and never will be as I'm slow
If I crash, I never bounce.
*not a DH racer and never will be as I'm slow
Yeah, I agree. Although you can push the margins and safety in any sport, the nature of DH more than anything really makes the consequences much graver, to the point where people can and will cross the line in to what is blatantly unsafe. Pressures to compete, from sponsors, expectations, industry, and everything else will over-ride someone's judgement and ability to process information. While there will always be some trying to bend the rules, some sort of minimum for the purpose of safety would probably be a good idea. They also have some rules in road racing for this reason, although sometimes they also have rules for the wrong reasons.
Sadly also a bunch are taping cardboard boxes inside their jerseys as "protection" just to satisfy the authorities. Would piss me off if I was their protective gear sponsor.
Gloves and back armour for sure. Not sure about chest.
You have to laugh about the guys who go to crazy extents just to skirt the rules. Surely cardboard armour is more cumbersome that actually just wearing lightweight D30 suits or whatever.
I'm vaguely in the market for a new spine protector, but I've had bad results with every D30 product I've purchased. It's all been the orange rubber a few years back, so I'm not sure if new versions, or the green stuff or the multiple other competitor foams are any different.
The IXS Flow protector looks OK, but also potentially hot as fyck.
The IXS Flow protector looks OK, but also potentially hot as fyck.
Do they still do that stuff? Surely there is some, but didn't a few get busted in Europe a couple seasons ago and get fined or disqualified?
Haven't really seen it mentioned or pictured anywhere lately...but maybe they are just trying to hide it?
In Kerr's LSD videos the Pivot team was cutting up and stuffing foam floor tiles under their jerseys. Have to think actual armor would be more comfortable and certainly more effective.
Wonder if they're sponsored by an armour brand that doesn't do chest/back options?
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I think just a back plate and gloves, along with full face helmet.
I'd like to see better integration between torso armor and neck braces. The only thing I could find that didn't cause some lift of my neck brace last season was a Leatt stealth jacket. The D3o pads are thinner than I'd prefer; it's better than nothing but I'd like something more substantial. Leatt makes heavier duty armor that's supposed to be designed for their neck braces, but I've found they lift the brace too much when I'm low over the bars; they probably work fine for moto.
So I'm not rad enough and don't ride park enough to warrant a chest & neck protector, but I think the industry needs to find a better way to do elbow pads. Every time I've worn them, they either are so loose there's no way they'd do anything more than a jersey in a crash, or so tight that I would start to get arm pump within 30 seconds or so. So, even though I know intuitively that I'm almost as likely to hit my elbows as my knees in a crash (hell, more likely than my face, and I wear a full face sometimes), I never wear elbow pads.