This is what's wrong with The Industry™
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Does a SRAM crank tree grow when SRAM cranks
About time someone invented a vibration absorbing device for bikes.
About time someone invented a vibration absorbing device for bikes.
The GX Transmission looks fine in person.
The only thing on it that I care about is the direct mount derailleur tho.
The only thing on it that I care about is the direct mount derailleur tho.
Really?
The derailleur is heavy AF... But all these Leccy ones are. Nothing else is wildly heavy except the cranks. But even those are probably 100g lighter than the saints I run on most of my bikes.
off a little bit there..... those gx cranks are listed at 740...... a quick google lists saints at 750
I am not happy about the eight bolt chainring.
Makes all my light, old three bolt cranks useless.
Makes all my light, old three bolt cranks useless.
Just watched a video about the new xx and xo cranks.
XO crank 532 grams bolts 8 grams ring 75 grams bash guards 82 grams.
I will see how they last, at 532 you have to spend some big money to get lighter.
XO crank 532 grams bolts 8 grams ring 75 grams bash guards 82 grams.
I will see how they last, at 532 you have to spend some big money to get lighter.
Honestly that's my biggest gripe with the Transmission stuff... another new standard. I'm guessing they went to MOAR BOLTz to do the bashguard integration. I've got a set of eeWings that there's zero chance I'm replacing. Currently my only choice for a Transmission compatible chainring is one from Wolf Tooth Drop-Stop B which is out of stock in my preferred 32t. If I use their CAMO setup, I can't use my OneUp Bashguide. If I use NSB's 104bcd spider for eeWings, I'd have to step up to a 34t chainring and I'm not strong enough.
Is t the same s
Isn't it the same bolt spacing but with 3 MOAR drillings?Honestly that's my biggest gripe with the Transmission stuff... another new standard. I'm guessing they went to MOAR BOLTz to do the bashguard integration. I've got a set of eeWings that there's zero chance I'm replacing. Currently my only choice for a Transmission compatible chainring is one from Wolf Tooth Drop-Stop B which is out of stock in my preferred 32t. If I use their CAMO setup, I can't use my OneUp Bashguide. If I use NSB's 104bcd spider for eeWings, I'd have to step up to a 34t chainring and I'm not strong enough.
like my 11 year old SLX cranks? that have now been on at least 4 different frames?
It's 8 bolt vs 3 bolt. I think it's technically not a new standard as it's the same pattern as they used on their road power meters or something.Transmission has a new chainring standard?
Is the spindle 28.139mm?
Why? 32t rings fit on 104s without having to do the goofy offset thing they do for 30s.If I use NSB's 104bcd spider for eeWings, I'd have to step up to a 34t chainring and I'm not strong enough.
Edit: because SRAM's 104 T-Type rings start at 34t
Right, realized that as soon as I wrote it.
I'm sure more third party options are coming.
It's been around for a long time on their road cranks, it's also been around a long time on the high end MTB cranks to allow for power meter.
Not sure.
Found on Google: According to SRAM, T-Type chainrings are backwards compatible with Eagle drivetrain chains, but Eagle drivetrain chainrings are not compatible with T-Type Transmission chains and cassettes.
I guess one solution that will come out will be OneUp producing T-Type chainrings for their Switch spider. Buy a Switch spider having the right interface for your crank and the right chainring for your chain. I am already on the OneUp Switch program and I can see myself staying on it for a while.
Found on Google: According to SRAM, T-Type chainrings are backwards compatible with Eagle drivetrain chains, but Eagle drivetrain chainrings are not compatible with T-Type Transmission chains and cassettes.
I guess one solution that will come out will be OneUp producing T-Type chainrings for their Switch spider. Buy a Switch spider having the right interface for your crank and the right chainring for your chain. I am already on the OneUp Switch program and I can see myself staying on it for a while.
Yeah, I'd happily do a Switch setup if they make one that will fit. From what my mechanic told me, the T-Type chain spaces/teeth are slightly narrower and shorter. He said I'd probably be ok using a slightly worn Eagle chainring, it just might be a bit noisier at first until it wears down more.
Edit: chatted with OneUp. Here's what they said:
- So our chainrings will work with t-type chains however they are not a perfect match
11:09 AM - so like a bit noisy at first? or less chain retention?
11:09 AM - It will likely wear the chainring and chain out faster than a proper t-type compatible ring will
11:09 AM - ahh ok
11:09 AM - Chain retention should still be good, might be slightly more noisy
11:10 AM - are you going to be releasing a newer version to address this soon?
11:10 AM - Unfortunately our chainrings are not a big seller so there isn't quite enough demand for us to make an immediate change, it's something that will likely happen further down the track though
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i'll take a little flex over a 40+lb trail bike.
Bigger roller diameter mostly. It kinda sorta meshes with some other rings, especially if they're a bit worn, but it's not ideal.
In motorcycle road racing, they worked very hard to get flex out of frames, then found that frames with some flexibility handled better. This from my friend Kevin Cameron...
that's because they corner at 1g+ while at super high lean angles such that forces perpendicular to the ground surface are effectively mostly lateral wrt the frame and swingarm
most of us do not do this on bicycles eh
Suspensions are mechanisms to induce and control flex.
fair enough. Your preference so your call. But if Saint cranks were going to be the last straw, to tip a bike over the 40lb mark it was already balanced precariously on the edge.
FWIW The bikes I have saint cranks on are a 25lb hardtail, a 27lb 140/120mm FS XC/trail bike, a 30lb 120mm FS DJ/slope bike, a 31lb 170/170mm Enduro bike, and 2x 26" Alu DH bikes at 35 and 36lb respectively.
One of the DH bikes and the slope bike are running boat anchor MK1s. The rest MK2s.
we've both been riding long enough that we remember a time when everything on a bike flexed.
