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what cars do mountain bikers drive?

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nikwho said:
I drive a 7000lb tank that is a Ford F-350 diesel crew cab!
Wow, it's the twin for what we at work like to call the "Overcompensator".

Speaking of which, I haven't seen it or its midget-like skulleted driver in awhile...you're not related, are you?
 

Snacks

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habitatxskate said:
honda element? is the interior really posible to hose out including the front interior and seating and everything? or is that just an advertisment play on words? a lot of offroaders "rhino line" their rigs which gives them the safe effect the element hose off ability, so if you get all dirty in mud you can simply hose it out..so i guess your element has a hard almost plasticy floor to it?
Yes, you can hose it out. The floor is a softer rubber, not hard pastic. The best part is you can fit three bikes in side without taking the front wheels off and the two back seats fold down flat to make a bed.
 

habitatxskate

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damn, that is pretty good!
how is gas and MSRP?
although, i think a pickup would be a lot more beneficial carrying a bike, though gas sucks, trust me on that.
 

habitatxskate

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How would you define the most amazing production car in the world? Would it be:

* The car with the most horsepower?
* The car with the fastest top speed and acceleration?
* The most expensive car?

At the moment, the Bugatti Veyron appears to have it all:

* A W-16 engine that can produce 1,001 horsepower
* A top speed of 250+ mph (400+ kph)
* A zero-to-60 time of three seconds
* A zero-to-180 time of 14 seconds
* A price tag somewhere in the $1.2 million range.

Style or Power?
Is a sports car more about performance or style? What makes a "sports car" sporty?
Tell us.


that is super amazing, though i don't think anyone could do 250 without passing out..still, nice to know you are controlling something like that.
 

Snacks

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habitatxskate said:
damn, that is pretty good!
how is gas and MSRP?
although, i think a pickup would be a lot more beneficial carrying a bike, though gas sucks, trust me on that.
Gas is good, about 26 on hwy. I bought a 2wd, manual tranny so I think that helps. Saw a new on one the show room floor for $26k.

Trucks are nice, but I like somethink I can stash my bike inside while I'm at work. We take a lot of trips were bringing the XC and DH bikes are perfect so having one set in the car, while you are riding the other works well.
 

Ian F

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rooftest said:
Don't buy a VW unless you like taking it in for repairs.
This depends... I just turned 91K on my TDI and it's never been to the dealer for repairs. The only part I've replaced (beyond the required maintenance) is one glow plug ($15 & 15 minutes). The TDI's seem to be relatively problem free... Plus, the 2003 was the last year for this version of the TDI engine which had been in production since the mid-90's - bugs were sorted out for 2003. I wouldn't buy a 2004 or newer TDI.

I also made some choices when I ordered my car. Manual trans (do NOT get a VW automatic - especially w/ a diesel). I went with a minimum of options, although the car is still well equiped. GLS package, leather interior, cold-weather package (practically mandatory with a diesel), upgraded stereo. Keeping electronic gizmos (a German car weak point, IMO, after experiencing my g/f's '97 BMW M3) to a minimum.

I have the Thule crossbars from my hated Audi A4 and use that to haul bikes... although usually I just fold the rear seats and put the bike in the back. I plan to add a hitch set-up at some point for towing and additional bike-carrying options.

One thing about the TDIs. You have to be meticulous with maintenance. Oil changes have to be done with rather expensive oil which can be hard to find - I end up at the local VW dealer at about $27 a shot. Just for the oil. I buy the filters online. I'm due for a timing belt change... like NOW... so that'll be about a $600 DIY job including the tools. About $300 w/o tools. Or about $800 at the dealer. But it has to be done. Diesels have high compression engines - about 19:1 in the TDI which makes it a major interference engine. If the belt breaks... :dead: engine. Good part is oil changes are every 10K miles. Timing belt 100K.

Things I don't like about the car? Well, it dead-on svcks to drive. It may be "Autobahn tuned" but it handles horribly. The springs are way too soft and the front struts might last 20K miles (I blew mine in less than 500 miles, although partially my fault). It's really slow. And I mean sloooooooooooow. Don't bother stop-light racing anyone. You will lose. Pull up next to a clapped out Yugo? Forget it. If he notices you and half-tries, you've lost. Ok, I'm exaggerating a bit, and the car can get out of it own way, but off-the-line acceleration is not it's forte. This can be helped somewhat through aftermarket chips and whatnot, but you will pay a bit in fuel mileage - I don't care what the VW forums dorks say. Horsepower is function of fuel burned. It's simple physics. Period.

Anyway, it's not all bad. The car is relatively comfortable over long hauls. Decent seats. Great A/C - especially compared to my g/f's MINI Cooper S. And the fuel mileage to utility ratio beats everything out there. The resale value is awesome. TDI wagons are rare. I could probably sell my car for not much less than the $20,900 I paid for it (MSRP $23K). I got it before the big gas increases of 2004. Dealers don't budge of TDI prices now. I had to order the car and waited 10 weeks for it.

The 16" BBS wheels ('01 Wolfsburg Edition wheels) were added by me (taking a mpg hit for the wider tires as well). As was the MkIII TDI grill badge (my bit of "bling"). I run snow tires in the Winter. I do all of my own work as I've heard too many horror stories of dealers having no clue how to work on the TDIs. Fortunately, online support for these cars is great (www.tdiclub.com) so it's a good care for hte DIY wrench. If I wasn't doing the work myself... well... I'm not sure I'd own one.
 

ska todd

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habitatxskate said:
How would you define the most amazing production car in the world?
Super cars get everyones' rocks off but for me it's the sleepers that excite me. A car that you would never expect would whomp that crap outta you. My personal nod goes to the Audi RS6 Avant. Nothing like being able to crush it on the autobahn while hauling kids & groceries :D Too bad you can't get em here in the States...oh or that they cost a flippin mint.

-ska todd
 

BurlyShirley

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I dont care anything about cars. Someday I would like to have a nice Corvette, but for now it's all about utility. I have a 93 Jeep Cherokee that wont die, so Im not complaining. I may buy a frontier around Christmas time.
 

geargrrl

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rooftest said:
Don't buy a VW unless you like taking it in for repairs.
I don't know how the new ones are, but we had a jetta ( '84) that we bought new, that really started eating us alive in repair bills once it hit about 60K. It had a lot of electrical problems. Even tho that's like 20 years ago, it makes me a little hesitant to look at VW again.

gg
 

Westy

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I have a WRX wagon. I used to be into cars but could care less anymore. I could have some 500hp beast and it wouldn't matter as I would be stuck behind the jerk in front of me. I'd rather have the truly unobtainable, no one else on the road.
 

ska todd

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That black MkIV Golf is dope...love the steelies + whitewalls! Pure steeze.

-ska todd
 

Snacks

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geargrrl said:
I don't know how the new ones are, but we had a jetta ( '84) that we bought new, that really started eating us alive in repair bills once it hit about 60K. It had a lot of electrical problems. Even tho that's like 20 years ago, it makes me a little hesitant to look at VW again.

gg
Yep, we've had two VW wagons and had tons of electrical problems with both of them....never again!:mad:
 

Ian F

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Snacks said:
Yep, we've had two VW wagons and had tons of electrical problems with both of them....never again!:mad:
Like I said. It's a crap-shoot. I've had no problems with mine at 91K. Trust me. I kinda wish it would give me problems because then I'd have a good excuse to get rid of it. I love the car when I need to fill it with fuel. Otherwise, I hate driving the thing. I won't buy another.

I wish my Audi A4 Avant hadn't blown up on the drive home from the stealer back in 2002. It was a nice car... everything I wanted in a wagon... well, except the crappy 2.8 V6 gas mileage... :(

Then again, I also wish the timing had been different and my g/f would have decided to sell her M3 before I bought the Jetta. As much as that car drove me nuts (VW's are nothing compared to BMW's when it comes to electrical gremlins), it was such an absolute joy to drive... and the sound... my god that engine made such wonderful sounds... :love: and believe it or not, would actually get decent gas mileage: about 30 mpg in mixed driving if you could stay out of the "go" pedal.
 

Snacks

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Ian F said:
Like I said. It's a crap-shoot. I've had no problems with mine at 91K. Trust me. I kinda wish it would give me problems because then I'd have a good excuse to get rid of it. I love the car when I need to fill it with fuel. Otherwise, I hate driving the thing. I won't buy another.
We had the worst combo, GLS V6 wagon with a auto tranny:mumble: We had to get a auto tranny because at the time I had a broken right arm....man that tranny was messed up:dead:

We looked and looked for a TDI manual, but gas has just hit the big spike and they were going for at least 5k over blue book and the manual trannys were not anywhere to be found.
 

habitatxskate

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geargrrl said:
I don't know how the new ones are, but we had a jetta ( '84) that we bought new, that really started eating us alive in repair bills once it hit about 60K. It had a lot of electrical problems. Even tho that's like 20 years ago, it makes me a little hesitant to look at VW again.

gg
couldn't you just simply get a new wiring harness if i'm thinking about the electrical you are.?

thats why i like the older trucks which include mine, nothing too technical w/ wiring unlesss you make it...no a/c just heat(kind of sucks) now i got no radio b/c of the fire! just a few simple computers/wire hook ups, gas, rpm, oil presure, no door open, no sear weight sensors, just the basics, and damn is it nice though it is a huge mess.

i want to say a few quick things to all the ricers, i do like several of them, don't get me wrong..though i can't stand the p.o.s. civics that think they are fast, i really thing a truck with 320 horsepower and 35" tires would beat them..though i do like the BMW's with the whole setup.M3<3..

as for the lowered trucks, eh they are alright, i guess you could use em to move stuff, but thats about it, speedbumps are impossible for them, as for us lifted guys we don't they are there, or small animals. and big animals too.

personally this is sick

with just a touch of overkill
owned

though this **** is gay
 

Ian F

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Snacks said:
We had the worst combo, GLS V6 wagon with a auto tranny:mumble: We had to get a auto tranny because at the time I had a broken right arm....man that tranny was messed up:dead:

We looked and looked for a TDI manual, but gas has just hit the big spike and they were going for at least 5k over blue book and the manual trannys were not anywhere to be found.
Yeah... I've thought about trading my car in or selling it... but I just can't give up that mileage... :(
 

jimmydean

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habitatxskate said:
as for the lowered trucks, eh they are alright, i guess you could use em to move stuff, but thats about it, speedbumps are impossible for them, as for us lifted guys we don't they are there, or small animals. and big animals too.
After next month, my truck will be on bags. Speed bumps are not a problem and it handles like a muscle car, yet hauls my bike/moto and all the gear I need.

I've had many a lifted truck (1 Chevy, 1 GMC, 4 Toyota's), but have no need for 4 wheel drive. Plus, I like to go fast sometimes and a lifted truck isn't fast and sure as hell can't corner. If I want to go off road, I'll take my bike on a trail.
 

Qman

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mogulskr said:
Current Car: 96 explorer

Dream Car: Element

Wait for the '07 model if you buy one. More power, and they finally fixed the seat belt issue so the people in front don't have to remove their belts to let rear passengers out. Much better styling too...finally. Not sure why Honda suddenly started using the ugly stick on their new models a few years back.
At least in the PNW, buying a used Honda rarely makes sense since they hold their value so well and used ones tend to have a ton of miles. For $1000-$2000 more, you can get a brand new one compared to most used that are going for retail.
 

stevew

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ska todd said:
That black MkIV Golf is dope...love the steelies + whitewalls! Pure steeze.

-ska todd
Actually, it is blue.....

This is Version 4.0 I think....

 

Toshi

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stevew said:
Actually, it is blue.....

This is Version 4.0 I think....

those big wheels sure highlight how small the brakes are :(
 

stevew

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Toshi said:
those big wheels sure highlight how small the brakes are :(
It's a TDI, It's not getting anywhere that fast.:)

That and the owner works on fast cars for a living. He didn't want a fast daily driver.
 

Toshi

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stevew said:
It's a TDI, It's not getting anywhere that fast.:)

That and the owner works on fast cars for a living. He didn't want a fast daily driver.
hmm. even if it will only break 85 on a downhill slope i still think large wheels + small brakes looks odd :D
 

stevew

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Toshi said:
hmm. even if it will only break 85 on a downhill slope i still think large wheels + small brakes looks odd :D
That I don't question.:) He had a large collection of wheels of various sizes.
 

Superdeft

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Current car: 06 honda element

Dream car: Inside my element is the engine for my dream car I am helping design and build. Notice we're using CCDB shocks.


Track: 49 in. (front)
45 in. (rear)
Wheelbase: 66 in.
Curb Weight: 375 lbs.
Approx. Weight Distribution (f/r): 55/45

Powertrain
Engine: 2004 Honda CBR600 F4i
ECU: Performance Electronics ECU
Fuel Capacity: 2 gal.
Fuel Type: 100 Unleaded Octane

Chassis
Crash Attenuator: Aluminum Foam Composite
Bodywork: Carbon Fiber Body
Frame: 4130 Steel Spaceframe
Ground Clearance: 2 in.

Suspension
Wheels: 13 in. Three Piece Wheels
Brakes: 7.75 in. Slotted Rotors
Suspension Type: Double Wishbone/Pushrod (front)
Double Wishbone/Pushrod (rear)
Shock Absorbers: Cane Creek Double Barrel
Steering Ratio: 12:1
 

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nikwho

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jimmydean said:
I think he means it's much cheaper in the long run to lift the hell out of a 4x2 and convert it then to spend the dough on a 4x4 that you end up changing out anyway. If you don't pay for a transfer case, drive line, front axle, front springs, and stock gears that you won't be using to begin with, then then your ahead of the game.

thanks... thats exactly what i meant.. you save $ and end up with something more bullet proof! and yeah, it was a drag when it was being built... it was out of commission for just under a month, but worth while in the end...i started with a 2wd with i-beams and radius arms and unbolted it all and all of the aftermarket 4wd parts bolt right up! It ended up working out really smooth! plus, i save a little each year registering it as a 2wd!:cool: lol

so, on a side note.... i spent a little time at the subaru dealership today! i drove the impreza wrx sti and found that i was in love but it was a tad out of my price range... i really do like the impreza wrx too! i went ahead and gave em the go ahead to run my credit tonight and i think that if i dont wimp out, i might be going in tomorrow afternoon and get my brand new wrx! i had a BLAST driving it today!!! im also staying open to other ideas! what is comparable? i like the lancer evo's but they are too much $ too. i kinda like the jettas.... im in the $20k-$26k range... im open to suggestions!!! i dont wanna make a mistake!