I check USAC and UCI websites daily, still nothing.any word on that press release USAC was suppose to put out?
I check USAC and UCI websites daily, still nothing.any word on that press release USAC was suppose to put out?
sweet, 93' world cup flashback.Hunter MTN... rumors kicking around...
Yeah, like I said, the terrain is not the problem.
Did you miss the part about the two commas in the number of dollars it takes to secure a World Cup? Who is putting that money up in Pisgah? A couple of park rangers and a bear?
As far as amenities, Pisgah has a few "bombs away" $hit houses here and there with no plumbing. I am sure those would be able to handle the huge circus that is the World Cup.
And I guess everybody will just tent camp too, since there is no resort.
And if you wanna lift, put a jack under your ass!
Billy already did, but i threw my .02 in thereSo, who's going to be the 1st to post up on Windham's WC facebook page popping the question?
done and done, but it seems someone else posted while i wasSo, who's going to be the 1st to post up on Windham's WC facebook page popping the question?
I know something you don't know..Billy already did, but i threw my .02 in there
I'm gonna blame it on Obama and all the illegal immagrants.It bums me out that there were well over 10 additional successful bids in place to host DH (and triples) WC events by other countries (including Labresse and Pietermaritzburg again) All with secure funding held in a Bond. These get passed over for events like this that caved in like a house of cards.
What is USAC doing to help promoters find and secure sponsors for event s like this. What is USAC doing to help the gravity scene in USA. It almost seems like all the regional and independent promoters would be better off starting their own gravity federation that would get approval from the UCI as a governing body.
I know these are two different debates, but it boggles my mind how countries like South Africa, Brazil, Maribor and Andorra can all get it right but the almighty USA cant.
I'm surprised that they were planning to keep it up in the first place, I thought that kind of stuff needed to be plowed under for winter season?Here it comes boys!!!
WINDHAM, New York (derailedonline.com) - The official announcement about Windham has not yet arrived but the reality is clear. Windham has already plowed their 4x course that was to stay up for an entire year. The rumor around the campfire is that the money just isn't there for them to support a World Cup.
December 1st was the deadline imposed by the UCI so expect to see some official news soon. Watch back here for updates...
Again, what Voodoohoo said a while back: Essentially, many of those countries have governmental financial backing (a la Mt. St Anne's WC/Velerium Event). We here do not, and this situation reminds me of the whole health Insurance debate we're currently having. Should we? Maybe. It just doesn't seem to be within the 'Merican culture i.e., no govt. help, but corporate sponsorship is OK. Will this change in the future? Dunno. Right now, corporate sponsorship is also down the tubes with the economy.It bums me out that there were well over 10 additional successful bids in place to host DH (and triples) WC events by other countries (including Labresse and Pietermaritzburg again) All with secure funding held in a Bond. These get passed over for events like this that caved in like a house of cards.
What is USAC doing to help promoters find and secure sponsors for event s like this. What is USAC doing to help the gravity scene in USA. It almost seems like all the regional and independent promoters would be better off starting their own gravity federation that would get approval from the UCI as a governing body.
I know these are two different debates, but it boggles my mind how countries like South Africa, Brazil, Maribor and Andorra can all get it right but the almighty USA cant.
WHAT?!?!?! Hcor is not worth quoting!?!?! Wow, you've changed!!!LOL, derailed/hcor is positively not worth quoting. That release is nothing more or less than has already been said in this thread. Windham was planning on plowing that 4x course since Phil offered his building expertise. So, nothing new.
But soon.
Which is why I haven't held a USAC license since 2007. I support series and events that are worth supporting.What is USAC doing to help promoters find and secure sponsors for event s like this. What is USAC doing to help the gravity scene in USA. It almost seems like all the regional and independent promoters would be better off starting their own gravity federation that would get approval from the UCI as a governing body.
why is it a loss for the sport?This is just another loss for the USA and the great sport of DH
maribor is not a country, it's a city in slovenia...It bums me out that there were well over 10 additional successful bids in place to host DH (and triples) WC events by other countries (including Labresse and Pietermaritzburg again) All with secure funding held in a Bond. These get passed over for events like this that caved in like a house of cards.
What is USAC doing to help promoters find and secure sponsors for event s like this. What is USAC doing to help the gravity scene in USA. It almost seems like all the regional and independent promoters would be better off starting their own gravity federation that would get approval from the UCI as a governing body.
I know these are two different debates, but it boggles my mind how countries like South Africa, Brazil, Maribor and Andorra can all get it right but the almighty USA cant.
why not think before you type?why is it a loss for the sport?
Wow thanks for your insight that contributes nothing to this thread or situation.maribor is not a country, it's a city in slovenia...
No wonder they didnt stamp my passport every time i crossed the Drava river en route to Pohorje.
why? they had problems these summer running their event. they have problems getting enough fund. why shouldn't there be problems running the world cup? no event is better for the sport then a bad event...You're an idiot.
so where did you learn all this knowledge ? You must have some great sources.why? they had problems these summer running their event. they have problems getting enough fund. ..
why is it a loss for the sport?
Let me spell it out for you then:why? they had problems these summer running their event. they have problems getting enough fund. why shouldn't there be problems running the world cup? no event is better for the sport then a bad event...
Not to mention the country where mountain bike racing arguably began.When the world's wealthiest national, with countless lift accessed bike parks and world class venues, cannot manage to host more than 2 rounds of the WC in 10 seasons and none in the past 5 years, despite being without question the center of the Cycling industry, that is not good for the sport of downhill. No matter where you are from.
noooooooope. It was because indy wanted to much of the cut and other things not lack of investors. The stands were PACKED the 4 years that i went to the race there. Even in the grand stands where you couldnt see a thing, people were there. It was even a good time when only 6 cars were on the track.It's the same reason Formula1 (the most grossing sport in the world) hasn't taken off in the USA. Indianapolous held the race a few times, but because no one was willing to invest more, the race was dropped. The guys in F1 see the USA as a missed opportunity aswell. It really is a shame that it is going this way.
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getting closer....Eccelstone wanted too much money (as usual) and when Canada and the U.S. werent willing to pony up the money, he took them off the schedule.noooooooope. It was because indy wanted to much of the cut and other things not lack of investors.
And then he got desperate and put montreal back! Montreal fans are rabid, US fans got screwed after the tire debacle and a lot of them said screw F1.getting closer....Eccelstone wanted too much money (as usual) and when Canada and the U.S. werent willing to pony up the money, he took them off the schedule.
ah thats what it was. Now i remember. The course at indy is pretty fun to watch tho.getting closer....Eccelstone wanted too much money (as usual) and when Canada and the U.S. werent willing to pony up the money, he took them off the schedule.
But this is always the case with you guys in the States. I'm not meaning that personally atall, so please don't take offence. What I mean to say is that it's all about the money for your industries it would seem. Yes, you are "the" capitalist country, but we here in Europe are pretty damn capitalist too. The difference is, we're often willing to take a risk or make a sacrifice from a monetary point of view in order to put on a good show. This is where we differ.
It's the same reason Formula1 (the most grossing sport in the world) hasn't taken off in the USA. Indianapolous held the race a few times, but because no one was willing to invest more, the race was dropped. The guys in F1 see the USA as a missed opportunity aswell. It really is a shame that it is going this way.
With reference to the tracks and terrain over your way, they're nothing like over here. I rode in Mamoth with my brother in the summer, and the trails there were pretty basic in comparision to what we have over here. Not SO much to do with the gradient, but more to do with the technicality of the trails. We hired Demo8s, and not once did we really think that we were using the bikes to their full potential.
Nonetheless, the tracks could be fantastic for the WC - purely from a marketing POV. Lift access, easy for camera work, and a nice area for the pits. If exposure was what sponsors were looking for, then the type of tracks you guys have over there are better suited than our by a long way.
...So, something doesn't quite add up...
I've never ridden in Europe so I can't compare, but please don't judge all of our trails/terrain after riding at one resort. The U.S. is a huge country with incredibly diverse geography.With reference to the tracks and terrain over your way, they're nothing like over here. I rode in Mamoth with my brother in the summer, and the trails there were pretty basic in comparision to what we have over here. Not SO much to do with the gradient, but more to do with the technicality of the trails. We hired Demo8s, and not once did we really think that we were using the bikes to their full potential.
Canadians got what they wanted! i cant wait till JuneAnd then he got desperate and put montreal back! Montreal fans are rabid, US fans got screwed after the tire debacle and a lot of them said screw F1.