[Andeh]

There's a bunch of nice little detail changes too besides carbon & stiffer.
* push through routing for derailleur housing
* built in brake hose clips
* better fit for stay protectors (less peeling)
* IGUS bushings at stay pivot
* 8x30 rear hardware (can use Fox & RS roller bearing hardware now)
* no more 3mm dish on rear wheel
* SRAM UDH
* 180mm post mount

 

[mtg]

Yes, all of those things were on purpose for improved refinements ^^^

Good catch on the 30mm wide hardware, that was definitely for the bearing mounts.

 

[maxyedor]

Is that whole 300 grams in the stays alone? Wouldn’t have guessed there was that much potential weight savings in those puppies.

How much for a set for my current TP? and when do the Revved handlebars and shovels launch?

 

[Olga_icannot]

Yes, all of those things were on purpose for improved refinements ^^^

Good catch on the 30mm wide hardware, that was definitely for the bearing mounts.

Nice work. Take a minute to bask in the awesomeness. Feels good? Great. Now, when do those refinements make it to the Megatrail?

 

[marshalolson]

How much for a set for my current TP? and when do the Revved handlebars and shovels launch?

Yes, the 300g savings is combined between the Chainstay and Seatstay. With the move to IGUS and zero offset, the Revved rears are not compatible with alloy rears. Shooting for late 2021 for upgrade kits to release. Stay (no pun intended) tuned

 

[sethimus]

300g lighter and still 3084g without a shock?

 

[boogenman]

Can I send my trail pistol back? It hasn’t been ridden since all of it didn’t show up yet.

 

[4xBoy]

I'm so tempted.

 

[4xBoy]

Would the kitsuma air fit in the frame?

 

[marshalolson]

Can I send my trail pistol back? It hasn’t been ridden since all of it didn’t show up yet.

hey man, in all seriousness, shoot Dustin a quick email and ask what the options look like. There certain are for folks in your shoes.

 

[marshalolson]

Would the kitsuma air fit in the frame?

yup! hot setup too

 

[maxyedor]

Would the kitsuma air fit in the frame?

Wait, do they not fit the current TP? If so it’s probably good that I didn’t drunkenly order one last weekend, because I was a Scotch and a half away from clicking buy

Yes, the 300g savings is combined between the Chainstay and Seatstay. With the move to IGUS and zero offset, the Revved rears are not compatible with alloy rears. Shooting for late 2021 for upgrade kits to release. Stay (no pun intended) tuned

Interesting that you would quote my question about handlebars, but not address it, is this your lizard way of saying they’ll be out in two weeks? Blink twice for yes

 

[marshalolson]

I could tell you. But then I would have to kill you.

But, if something as complicated as a Chainstay can be made from Revved Carbon, essentially anything can be made out of the material.

the question then is prioritization around tooling costs, addressable market sizing, and payback period for setup costs.

Fancy way of saying ... many possibilities, all being explored, with resources only to do one project at a time!

 

[rideit]

300g lighter and still 3084g without a shock?

Hey, do you have a link where you found that weight listed?
thanks!

 

[marshalolson]

Size two trail pistol with revved rear is a six pound frame (no shock). Add a quarter pound per size bigger.

 

[jonKranked]

Size two trail pistol with revved rear is a six pound frame (no shock). Add a quarter pound per size bigger.

is that a revved royale in Paris?

 

[djjohnr]

Will alloy seat stay kits for the Gnarvana be made available again? Or will they be converted to carbon before they're available separately?

 

[sethimus]

Hey, do you have a link where you found that weight listed?
thanks!

it says 6.5 lbs on your website (was 6.8 this morning) when i select the frame without shock

is that the real weight?

 

[marshalolson]

it says 6.5 lbs on your website (was 6.8 this morning) when i select the frame without shock

is that the real weight?

what size?

 

[sethimus]

size 3. just realized this morning i selected a size, the 6,5 was without selecting

 

[marshalolson]

Will alloy seat stay kits for the Gnarvana be made available again? Or will they be converted to carbon before they're available separately?

I don't know exactly, but I believe alloy stays will be back on pretty soon, for all the models.

 

[marshalolson]

size 3. just realized this morning i selected a size, the 6,5 was without selecting

Yes, the 6.5 weight for size three includes extra stuff like the headset and such, the old stated weight was frame-only

 

[Nick]

my fav part is the cable capture design. that's clean and SMRT.

 

[boostindoubles]

my fav part is the cable capture design. that's clean and SMRT.

Be careful, too much excitement might induce a SHART.

 

[Adventurous]

Be careful, too much excitement might induce a SHART.

At @Nick's advanced age, he doesn't need the specter of excitement to get his shart on.

 

[Nick]

At @Nick's advanced age, he doesn't need the specter of excitement to get his shart on.

seriously.

what's next, barfing on climbs?

edit #1: apologies for talking about climbs in the DH forum
edit #2: damn healthy whippersnappers.

 

[Da Peach]

At @Nick's advanced age, he doesn't need the specter of excitement to get his shart on.

He is loved

 

[Westy]

Age has provided me with the wisdom to clench when I cough.

 

[OGRipper]

When in doubt, don't let it out.

 

[jonKranked]

nerds got a patent, eh?

 

[jstuhlman]

nerds got a patent, eh?

nerds got a whole 'notha company. now bikes will become a side product like thomson...when can i buy stock?

 

[jonKranked]

nerds got a whole 'notha company. now bikes will become a side product like thomson...when can i buy stock?

revved stonks

 

[Nick]

Will there be a Pistola again?

(that does seem like the setup, imho)

 

[mtg]

The weight

Will there be a Pistola again?

(that does seem like the setup, imho)

Oh for sure.

 

[6thElement]

Will there be a Pistola again?

(that does seem like the setup, imho)

You wouldn't prefer a Smasher with 150f/140r?

 

[SuboptimusPrime]

@mtg interesting about the use of bushings at the linkage pivot. Would love to hear more about this decision and execution. I understand the theoretical weight and stiffness advantages and obviously Turner had great success with them in the past (while Banshee did not).

Regardless, looks great! That is, aside from the fact that my alloy-contaminated Pistola is now unrideable and that my full aluminum megatrail may as well be cast into the abyss...

Unrideable GG content

 

[jonKranked]

@mtg interesting about the use of bushings at the linkage pivot. Would love to hear more about this decision and execution.

 

[SuboptimusPrime]

View attachment 157663

From the press release:

Additional updates include:

Full Revved Carbon rear triangle. 300 grams lighter and 50% stiffer that improves power transfer while climbing and cornering precision.
Built on the Modular Frame Platform. The updated Trail Pistol fits seamlessly
into our line of modular frames.
External brake hose clip system: You’ll no longer find zip ties directly on our frame. The new brake hose system “clips, twists, and inserts” to secure the hose.
Internal swingarm cable routing. Feed the derailleur cable into the front of the swingarm, and it exits at the other end.
Molded rubber protector: a newly designed protector with recessed fit gives riders additional clearance between the crank arm and protector, and prevents catching or edge peel.
Pivot bushings, where they make sense: To create an even stiffer rear triangle interface, the updated Trail Pistol seatstay/swingarm pivot switches from ball bearings to long proven IGUS bushings for lighter weight, better fit, and a longer service life.
Off with the offset. The rear wheel is now centered (zero dish) on the Revved
Carbon rear triangle.
Permanently Plush. GG Riders agree: Plush/Crush Mode is better achieved by switching Seatstay Kits, which is why the Trail Pistol has been optimized to be permanently plush with increased small bump compliance.
Updated GG decals. Immediately adds 250 watts. Who needs an e-bike now?

 

[slimshady]

my full aluminum megatrail may as well be cast into the abyss...

I've got an awesome recycling facility at my back yard, so if you fancy throwing it over here, I'll make sure it's disposed with all the due respect to our Mother Nature .

 

[jonKranked]

From the press release:

Additional updates include:

Full Revved Carbon rear triangle. 300 grams lighter and 50% stiffer that improves power transfer while climbing and cornering precision.
Built on the Modular Frame Platform. The updated Trail Pistol fits seamlessly
into our line of modular frames.
External brake hose clip system: You’ll no longer find zip ties directly on our frame. The new brake hose system “clips, twists, and inserts” to secure the hose.
Internal swingarm cable routing. Feed the derailleur cable into the front of the swingarm, and it exits at the other end.
Molded rubber protector: a newly designed protector with recessed fit gives riders additional clearance between the crank arm and protector, and prevents catching or edge peel.
Pivot bushings, where they make sense: To create an even stiffer rear triangle interface, the updated Trail Pistol seatstay/swingarm pivot switches from ball bearings to long proven IGUS bushings for lighter weight, better fit, and a longer service life.
Off with the offset. The rear wheel is now centered (zero dish) on the Revved
Carbon rear triangle.
Permanently Plush. GG Riders agree: Plush/Crush Mode is better achieved by switching Seatstay Kits, which is why the Trail Pistol has been optimized to be permanently plush with increased small bump compliance.
Updated GG decals. Immediately adds 250 watts. Who needs an e-bike now?

so wait were their changes to the front triangle?

is plush/crush mode going away for all models?