Guerrilla Gravity, badass frame manufacturer in Colorado
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of working at a bike company is that we can switch every ride if we want. For us, we run 29 mostly on the Pedälhead and Trail Pistol unless we're riding snow, urban riding, or doing something like taking a hardtail down the local DH shuttle trails. Those situations, the plus tires are nice. We see it as a niche, which makes sense in some cases, but the 29er setup is the default.As far as plus tire durability, some of them are very thin, like the the Fat B Nimble, which is 680g. But, then there's the WTB Trail Boss 3.0 at around 1150g that has survived so much abuse, it's hilarious. That includes Portal in Moab, the DH shuttle trails near Denver, and 1000 stair hucks during night time urban winter rides. When I ride plus tires, that's the style I prefer: heavy enough so I can ride like a complete goon.
not enough standards.
So I need a second set of wheels for my PH?The plus side
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Odds of ever selling a non-boosted Trail Pistol? Even if it's a few bucks more, it's better than the unwanted anal intrusion that comes along with selling my hobs and having to buy new ones. Neither i9 nor King makes adapters to boost, and that's a lot of dough to shell out for new hubs. I give zero fucks if that leads to a slightly smaller max tire size.
Would it be possible to run it with 26 for the smaller folk? (non boost) Thinking a small with 140 in permanent crush mode would be a blast. Limited budget, lots of "obsolete" parts, hoping to get a newish steed together for tiny sized son/daughter/wife Is there a compatibility issue, will my pistol turn on me?
According to the Gospel of Gary, Bikehad is upon us we must attack the apostate lizards and save our primate freedom fighter brethern from the evil Market forcing their hand, invisible it may be.
According to the Gospel of Gary, Bikehad is upon us we must attack the apostate lizards and save our primate freedom fighter brethern from the evil Market forcing their hand, invisible it may be.
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What if I told you.......we already make a bike that rides with a similar feel that uses smaller diameter wheels
We would have to make different rear triangle tooling, and make a custom one-off rear end. What wheels do you have? It's likely cheaper to change the hub, I've heard of people sending in I9 wheels/hubs to have them replace the hub shell with a wider one.
It would be pretty low, but we were talking about the idea of putting 27.5 x 2.5 tires/wheels on one with a 140 fork for fun.
Keep in mind the extra work to make a 142 rear end would cost more than a new rear wheel. The higher end wheels we spec are about $500 for the wheelset when bought with the frame. A cheaper rear wheel only is not a lot of cash. Doing semi-custom fitting on the front S.T.R.U.C.T.U.R.E. is much more reasonable, for things such as a size medium with a small seat tube (which we've done a number of Megatrails that way), or somebody on pinkbike was asking about a lower stack height Trail Pistol, which could be done with using the head tube from a size small on a medium frame. That stuff is much more doable that changing things on the rear end.
BB would be silly low (and this is coming from a guy who runs his (26") Megatrail in Super Gravity mode all the time). A 26" wheel with a similar tire is about 63mm smaller in diameter (using a DHF 2.3 Exo as an example) than a 29". On top of that, a 29" fork is about 20mm taller than a 26" for a given travel, so even if you go to a 140mm fork, you're still losing about 10mm off the axle to crown. That'll drop the BB 3mm (says their website). So 338-((63/2)+3) = 303.5mm (11.9 freedum units). That's... real low.
have you guys had the frame over to the guys at PUSH for one of their coil overs ??
also you should offer vinyl frame wraps for wet conditions . A buddy did his Giant with Invisiframe and it looks show room new in our wet mucky climate , I have used 3M on my last 3 bikes but wished it was cut to suit the frame .
http://www.invisiframe.co.uk/
also you should offer vinyl frame wraps for wet conditions . A buddy did his Giant with Invisiframe and it looks show room new in our wet mucky climate , I have used 3M on my last 3 bikes but wished it was cut to suit the frame .
http://www.invisiframe.co.uk/
Yeah, we've been talking to Push about getting an ElevenSix going for the Trail Pistol. It should be available some time soonish.
So, you'll be covering the warranty on that one-off frame? Cool, I'll send em your contact info.
Apparently I missed the humor. Long day of Pinkbiking....
That's probably what I'll end up doing, as much as I hate the idea of once again being forced into "upgrades", or sell my bike complete and buy something entirely new. It just pushes the next frame upgrade that much further down the road, or I'm back to a Transition Smuggler. I don't mind the little bit of extra cash for a Trail Pistol over a Smuggler because I know where the money is going, it's when it snowballs that it gets a little scary.
I suspect that if you offered an anti-boost rear end as an option, you'd sell quite a few of them, even if it did mean a moderate upcharge.
I think you're supposed to use a Velcro strap to hold your N.U.T.S. Sounds uncomfortable to me, but if that's how @mtg rolls, I ain't gonna judge.
Yeah, I think some outlets ....anyway, the Necessities Under The Saddle bracket.
The trend is obvious that riders are looking to get away from large packs, and every enduro race has people using electrical tape to attach all kinds of crap to their bike. We decided to integrate a frame mount for a flat repair kit into the frame instead of using tape.
We designed in the NUTS bracket, got custom made straps and put it above the BB. Strap a tube, CO2 and a tire lever down there and you don't have to carry that stuff elsewhere. Combine that with a usable water bottle mount, you no longer need to carry anything else for shorter rides. For big rides, now everything else fits into a fanny pack or small backpack.
The custom straps weren't ready yet when we took the website photos, but the pic above has the production version. It's tougher and has a grippy coating; the stuff does not move.
We also figured out that mounting the tire lever and CO2 to the side, instead of in front of the tube, works better.
We also figured out that mounting the tire lever and CO2 to the side, instead of in front of the tube, works better.
Dude, that blue color is gnarly. I think you're losing circulation.
In all seriousness though, I like the idea a lot. I've become an enduro satchel (fanny packs are so pase) convert but that seems like another great step towards carrying less shit.
In all seriousness though, I like the idea a lot. I've become an enduro satchel (fanny packs are so pase) convert but that seems like another great step towards carrying less shit.
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It's especially fun to watch people try to get tubeless tires off the rims when they get a flat. Sure, you got a tube and CO2, but this isn't 1995 anymore and tires are way way tighter on the rims. I used my bottle-opener a few days ago, in a moment of genius (wouldn't have wanted to do that on carbon though).
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Ride report = Rad
I was surprised how good the bike pedaled out of the saddle. A+ on the suspension engineers. It handled slow tech filled w roots and rocks just fine with a couple soft pedal strikes in there but meh, no big deal.
The trails were a little greasy so I couldnt pin it but I was impressed how easy it was to just give the bike it's head and go fast!
I'm not too stoked on my 36 tho. It may need to break in or something. I did a lower service when I changed travel. I've got one orange spacer in there running recommended H/L comp & rebound for my weight. It was very jack hammerish. I'm no light weight but my Vengeance was way more composed and plush. I'll give the 36 a fair shake but I'm skeptical as of now.
That is all.
Time for cheap gas station ice beer
I was surprised how good the bike pedaled out of the saddle. A+ on the suspension engineers. It handled slow tech filled w roots and rocks just fine with a couple soft pedal strikes in there but meh, no big deal.
The trails were a little greasy so I couldnt pin it but I was impressed how easy it was to just give the bike it's head and go fast!
I'm not too stoked on my 36 tho. It may need to break in or something. I did a lower service when I changed travel. I've got one orange spacer in there running recommended H/L comp & rebound for my weight. It was very jack hammerish. I'm no light weight but my Vengeance was way more composed and plush. I'll give the 36 a fair shake but I'm skeptical as of now.
That is all.
Time for cheap gas station ice beer
Goddammit. Just realized that GG apparently was at the CFRF yesterday and I could have demo'd a MT. 
We have the demo fleet at the shop by default. You can always come by and demo one, or meet us for a group ride and demo one there.Goddammit. Just realized that GG apparently was at the CFRF yesterday and I could have demo'd a MT.
