[PAMS 25]

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings.php
weight weenies relies on self test w/ accurate scale, even shimano history page as well as the retailers have that set pegged higher weight. Usually retailers and shimano don't put a higher weight on an item, it makes it less desireable if its too heavy.
Still an awesome crankset, I'd check your scale also.

Manu is right. The weight mentioned on the website is the triple chainring version "175 mm 22/32/44".


Here's my set-up. All these weigths are cheked by myself, except a few parts which are not arrived yet (those with the *).

Frame : Big Hit expert 2004 with OEM headset and seat clamp= 4063g
Shock : Manitou swnger SPV 4ways TFtuned 8.75 x 2.75" + steel spring 450lbs (612g) = 1135g
*Fork : Rock Shox Boxxer race = 3180g
Front tire : Michelin COMP 16 2.5 : 1195g
Rear tire : Maxxis High Roller 24*2.5 50a = 1130g
Rear tube: Nokian dh 24inch= 298g
*Front wheel: EX823 2004 (include FORE's) + Hope Bulb + DT comp + alloy nipples = 640+214+196 +11= 1061g
Rear wheel: atomlab dhr + hope xc + dt champion + pro lock brass nipples = 1320g
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 12/27 9s = 230gr
Shifter:SRAM trigger x.9 = 133gr
Rear mechs: SRAM X.9 2005 = 234g
Chain: SRAM PC99 + power link : 297g
Cable + Gaine 89g
Crankset : Shimano XT hollowtech 2 = 696g
Chain ring: Shimano XT 44t = 70g
Chain guide : MRP WC2 iscg : with Risse roller and drilled inner plate = 482
Grip: ODI lock on Ruffian = 102g
Pedals: 24 Toaster (heavy but so fat and grippy)= 674g
Seatpost: Specialized = 261g
Saddle: Tioga Multi Control II = 216g my experience with the Selle Italia SLR
Stem: Woodman Rockster S = 247g
*Handlebar : Easton EA70 low riser = 244g
Head lock Amoeba = 65g
Front brake: Hayes HFX Mag = 362g
Rear brake : Hayes HFX9 = 389g
Disc 8" (366) / bolts (28) = 394g

Total= 18.730g | 41.29 lbs

Not too bad for the price. With Ti spring, Xpédo MX3 pedals, ghetto tubeless and some carbon parts, the sub40 is easly accessible I think.

 

[bullcrew]

I put her at 40.2 the other day without swapping my peddals, cassette, bars and stem , ti spring, seat, stans tubeless, king hubs and deemax yellow rims, or tires yet.
04 bullit large
boxxer team blackboxed
hope mono 6ti brakes w/ 205mm rotors
deemax rims
maxxis minion 26X2.35 slow reezay
x/c tubes with slime
king headset
thomson 70mm stem
worldforce bars
odi rogue loc ons
avy dhs 275 shock w/ reb/comp
r.face bb
turbine cranks
bulletproof pedals
thomson post
RF dual rings
e-13drs
specialized saddle
x.9 shifters
x.9 rear der.
xt front der
xt cassette

the parts changing are:
thomson x.4 stem 70mm (stem and bar saves 104g)
protaper 31.8 bars
sella italia saddle (saddle saves 190g)
chris king hubs (? just a small amount saved)
deemax yellow rims
dt swiss spokes 3x
xpedo mag platform pedals (cast) 172g saved
xtr csm950 cassette 60g saved
maxxis minion FR DH tires w/kevlar beads 320g per tire =640g saved
stans no tubes ? maybe 300g total over x/c tubes with slime
=1466g saved over 3lbs shaved off.
All my parts changing will be here by friday. I'll build it up again weigh it and post it.
ADD 160g FOR THE HOPEY DAMPER DON"T KNOW HOW MUCH ON THE BRAKE THERAPY, DON'T CARE. BRAKE JACK MUST GO BY! BY! :nuts:

 

[MDBullit]

I built my old Bullit to 38.5 Ibs with no super light parts. Just 2.35 Kendas and regular tubes. Check it out....

 

[bullcrew]

No way, boxxers are lighter than those, I have a setta italia seat, x-4 thomson, pro taper bar magnesium peddal and 2.35 maxxis minions and still not that light.
My deemax are lighter than the dh30's I know because I just sold them.
Plus I have deemax on king hubs (plus stans no tubes) which is lighter than the deemax.
I'll have to weigh mine, I have a ton of light weight parts and 39.3 is the lightest I can seem to get figured.

 

[bullcrew]

39.8 lbs now.
Kept the avy and the hope mono 6ti brakes.

 

[anarchyUK]

OK, my ride was as follows (sorry, no pic's):
Frame: 2002 15" Orange 222 No floater
Fork: 2003 Boxxer World Cup only one spring and an air assist
Shock: 5th element w/ Ti spring
Stem/ Seatpost: Thomson Elite
Seat: Selle Italia SLR
Headset: Chris King
Handle Bar: Azonic World Force 1.5" rise (I recommend the Easton Carbon DH)
Brakes: 2003 Shimano XT w/ 8" Rotors
Grips: ODI Ruffians
Wheels: Ringle Single Tracks laced 3X w/ Straitguage 14G spokes to Ringle Abbah Hubs
Tires: Maxxis 26x2.5 anything Supertacky
Tubes: 20" tube flayed to be rimstrip and stans
Der, Cass, Chain: Dura Ace 11-23 Cass
Shifter: LX
Cranks: Truvativ Holzfellers 38T Ring
Chainguide: MRP slalom System 1
Pedals: Time Z

Overall Weight: 37 lbs.

It's very possible to make a strong but sturdy Bike, good luck with yours.

hey thats my bike

 

[bullcrew]

Is 41lb + a good weight for a aggressive fr/dh bike? considering it's a large.

 

[mtnbikej]

I put her at 40.2 the other day without swapping my ....BLAH BLAH BLAH

My '03 Bullit was 37.5-38 lbs with this build :

'03 large frame 5th Elem
'02 Super T
Hadley/D321
Maxxis 2.35 Minion single ply
Shimano XT cranks & BB
XTR Shifter
Hayes 8" f&f
King HS
XT derailluers
Thomson Post & Stem
Azonic Love seat
Azonic World Force bars
Shimano 646 pedals
XC tubes.


mtnbikej

 

[no skid marks]

05 BB7 Balfa
Fith El with Ti spring
Fox 40s
Easton Havok 60mm 28.5 stem
Salsa flat bars 660mm wide
Carbon spacers
Odi/salsa lock on grips
X7 shifter
X0 rear mech
XTR octalink cranks
Aireal chain guide(drilled a bit)
XTR ring with teeth ground of for bash ring
Welgo MG1 pedals
Hope Bulb 20mm front
Ti spokes(no probs yet)
Aluminum nipples
Hadley rear(could save alot here)
Minion 2.5 front and rear
XC front tube,light DH rear,Tubless is heavier than the rim tube set up I'm running to match the strength I've got.Believe it.
XTR caipers/saint levers
Short as possible lines.
A2Zrotors(don't know if you can get this stuff under this name in US)
Ti rotor bolts and a sprinkling of other TI bolts and Alli on shifters and non strength/stress areas.
I-beam seat+post,mid weight seat(nothing lighter believe it.)
No top cap or star fangled nut.
drilled anywhere possible.
XTR cassette
Thats about it. I'm only 65kg so could be a bit of weakness here n there for the big boys.

 

[dhkid]

i dont know if anybody has responed to this or not but the VP and the V10 weigh the same. the big differences between the two is the v10 has more travel and the vp can have a front der.

according to the sc web site, the vpfree is 9.4 lbs and the v10 is 10.7 both with dhx shoxs. sounds about right to me.

 

[crazybiker300]

38.6 lbs w/maxxis mobsters and dh tubes, probibly a little lighter now with the specialized tires and thinner tubes, for sale to if anyones interested, pm me

 

[demo008]

i was running single ply tires and i had my v10 down to 38 pounds but that was a bad idea. Know im riding dual ply tires, gamut guide, 40, and sram and my bike wieghs 39 its not that hard.

 

[dG video]

I know someone that got their 222 to about 35lbs which is too light IMO. I like to feel like I have something under me. 40-42 lbs is perfect. . . .

Dan

 

[SXtrailrider]

here is one at 38.6lbs

but im not sure about extreme freeride but for DH it is perfect.

 

[Bicyclist]

My Demo 8 is pretty damn light. I want to get my hands on a scale to weigh it some time.

 

[jasonw111]

my m3 is 38.5

 

[dropmachine]

My Commencal is going to be stupid light, without using stupid light parts.

I'm aiming for 36, realistically i expect 38.

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

my DHR is hovering at 42-43lbs right now, but im 230lbs, and coming from a 62lb scream, this thing feels like a road bike to me

 

[monkeyboy424]

here is one at 38.6lbs

but im not sure about extreme freeride but for DH it is perfect.

your bicycle is very.... colorful

 

[Bicyclist]

your bicycle is very.... colorful

You mean ugly? To each his own....

 

[ThePriceSeliger]

You mean ugly? To each his own....

Another diss night on SB? AGAIN???

 

[maxyedor]

My large Fly with a 888rc is 33.67
My buddy's top secret Foes DHS is 31.2 with dh tubes and 2.5" minions

 

[The Mad Haderer]

My large Fly with a 888rc is 33.67
My buddy's top secret Foes DHS is 31.2 with dh tubes and 2.5" minions

im calling BS on both accounts. bike specs are in order i believe.

 

[Banga]

im calling BS on both accounts. bike specs are in order i believe.

Indeed mono is 41lbs, There is no way I could cut 10lbs of it,
well maybe if I left the fork off, and the back wheel

 

[Transcend]

Indeed mono is 41lbs, There is no way I could cut 10lbs of it,
well maybe if I left the fork off, and the back wheel

Hard to ride that way, I'd think.

Also, bike below is somewhere between 35-36 pounds with pedals on it and 2006 e13 stuff, fox 40 etc.

 

[Banga]

Hard to ride that way, I'd think.

Also, bike below is somewhere between 35-36 pounds with pedals on it and 2006 e13 stuff, fox 40 etc.

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yeah that was my point, you couldnt build a rideable mono at that weight, mines 41lb, small frame ti springs etc, should drop under 40 when I get rid of the **** rims.

That orange is pretty sweet tho.

 

[The Mad Haderer]

yeah that was my point, you couldnt build a rideable mono at that weight, mines 41lb, small frame ti springs etc, should drop under 40 when I get rid of the **** rims.

That orange is pretty sweet tho.

you could also drop damn near a pound by going with some holzfellars or alot of ppl are looking to Xt cranks on DH bikes. the saints are boat anchors.

 

[Banga]

you could also drop damn near a pound by going with some holzfellars or alot of ppl are looking to Xt cranks on DH bikes. the saints are boat anchors.

yeah I nearly got xts, but these saints were stupid cheap, $150nz, so about $110 us, couldnt say no, and Im not really a weight weeny, would rather ride parts I know wont break

 

[ThePriceSeliger]

Medium Ventana El Cuervo
Marz 888 w/ GR crowns
DHX w/ TI spring
Hayes Mags/Shimano XT
SRAM X.0
Sun MTX rims laced to Hadley Hubs
E.13 SRS and soon to be LG.1

Around 38-39 tubeless.

 

[sirbikealot]

37.4 out of the box

 

[ThePriceSeliger]

37.4 out of the box

I don't know much about them, but what's up with your chian guide.

 

[bomberboy11]

but im not sure about extreme freeride but for DH it is perfect.

I wouldn't say that bike is perfect for anything.

 

[Thrillkil]

There was a guy who posted a while back on MTBR that got a Karpiel Disco down to 38-39lbs.

 

[dhkid]

37.4 out of the box

is that with dh tubes or tubeless set up? and what size cassette and chain ring is on that?

just found the spec list on the web site.
Fork Fox 40 RC 2 w/20mm axle
Shock Fox DHX 5.0
Stem Thompson X4 0deg, 50mm
Handle Bar Stone Edge 7075 T6
Grip Commencal Kraton w/lock ring
Levers Formula Oro K24
Brakes Formula Oro K24 200/200
Shifters SRAM Trigger X0 9v
Chain Guide Commencal
Rear Der. SRAM X0
Crankset Truvative Holzfeller DH
Seat Post Thompson Elite
Saddle Fizik Gobi Ti
Hubs Commencal
Rims Mavic EX 823 disc
Tyres Maxxis High roller 26x2.5
Size 46cm (S/M) 49cm (L/XL)

 

[aggrorider]

nvm it was already posted.

 

[bullcrew]

39.8 Karpiel aramgeddon with my boxxer on it and 43.5 with my S8, my rm7 is 38.5lbs.
Karpiel:
deemax/king wheelset
Kenda folding 2.5 tubeless
AVY 2.75 w/ ti spring
xpedo mag pedals
rf n.shore cranks
e-13 srs
king headset
protaper os bars
odi loc ons
x.9 shift and rear der
hope m4's
thomson post and stem
wtb laser v dh ti saddle
s8 fork
xtr cassette 4 ti cogs
43.5 lbs

with boxxer on 39.8lbs

There is intrest still in weogh savings.

 

[Transcend]

37.4 out of the box

That's a pretty sweet stock setup. Pretty much identical to our team stuff, minus the guide and frame.

How is the reliability with the chain dog/cat/rollercoaster deal? You did run them last year right? Whenever I see those and or the LG1, i remember Heikki proto testing it at Bromont and utterly obliterating the entire setup on rocks.

 

[Fury]

37.4 out of the box

"out of the box" happens to be about the best build money can buy

 

[patineto]

those the chainguide on the commencal works like rear derreileur in terms of tensioning the chain..!?!?

looks a little expose but also makes perfect sense, specially if you were running two chainrings or at least a really wide spread gear cluster.

 

[Bicyclist]

My Demo 8 is 41.25, just weighed it today on a digi. With a fork and ti spring it should be down in the 39 range.